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Re: [WriteLog] Setting up WL with FT-2000

To: Writelog Reflector <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Setting up WL with FT-2000
From: N6WK <n6wk@n6wk.com>
Date: Thu, 29 May 2008 11:52:53 -0700
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Hi John,
  I just discovered something amazing. Although I had to build a small 
Circuit to Key the radio using WriteLog for CW, I do not have to do it 
for RTTY FSK.
All I have connected from my Computer to my Radio is the straight 
through serial cable and my PSK port connected to my sound card and when 
I punch the RTTY button on the front of my FT-2000 the WriteLog MMTTY 
program works fine .  I start Writelog, then I click on the Window tab 
and select RTTY window, then when the RTTY Control Panel pops up, I 
selected Option, setup and went to the Misc tab and set the TX port to  
COM-TxD (FSK).
Of course, I still can use my other interface for PSK and for AFSK mode 
which will use my sound card and the Packet port also sends the received 
data for either RTTY or PSK to my computer . At first I thought it might 
be sending the data through my Packet port, but I disconnected it and 
the Writelog MMTTY is still sending it through my Serial cable connected 
to the CAT port, although by disconnecting the packet port which is 
connected to my sound card, I lost the receive data. I was not aware 
that I could do it this way. WOW, very simple. I can even monitor the 
Diddle using the Moni function.
Apparently the info I sent that stated you could not use Computer 
control and FSK over the same port is simple not true with the FT-2000 
and my computer.
73,
Gordon

John Balsillie wrote:
> Hi Gordon. Its the RTTY 4 pin socket, PTT on pins 3(PTT) and 4 (Gnd), FSK on
> pins 1 (shift) and 4 (Gnd).
> FSK and PTT on one comm port and the Rig control and CW on a second comm
> port. This works well with the TS870, the interface is very similar to the
> one shown at  http://www.ik3qar.it/rtty/1/ but includes a transistor.
>
> Thanks Gordon I'll keep at it
>
> Cheers
> john ZL1ALZ
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of N6WK
> Sent: Thursday, 29 May 2008 7:09 a.m.
> To: writelog@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Setting up WL with FT-2000
>
>
> /Hi John,
>   I read in the MMTTY setup this info:
>  /When you begin to set things up, remember that you need to consider
> how to control PTT while you consider how to generate the AFSK/FSK
> signal. This is because FSK uses a serial (COM) port, and this must be
> coordinated with other uses of the serial port. It is not possible to
> generate FSK and PTT or computer control over the same serial port. If
> you use FSK and also want to use PTT or computer control, you need two
> ports.
>
> Where are you trying to connect the #4 to on the F2K ?
>
> 73,
> Gordon N6WK
>
>
>
> John Balsillie wrote:
>   
>> Thanks Gordon, You said you are using the sound card so I take it its
>> AFSK?  My RTTY/PSK Interface has 4 lines on Comm 2, 1 and 2 for the
>> soundcard with transformers for AFSK and PSK, The 3rd line for
>> switching the PTT and the 4th one using the same circuit as the PTT/CW
>> for FSK. This 4th line works with the TS870 but it will not switch the
>> FT2K, Its this 4th circuit I'm looking to change for the FT2K!
>>
>> Like you my CW is via the same comport as the rig control on Comm 1.
>>
>> Cheers John ZL1ALZ.
>>
>>     -----Original Message-----
>>     *From:* N6WK [mailto:n6wk@n6wk.com]
>>     *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 May 2008 3:29 p.m.
>>     *To:* John Balsillie
>>     *Subject:* Re: [WriteLog] Setting up WL with FT-2000
>>
>>     Hi John,
>>       Yes, I have a different setup for doing RTTY or PSK.
>>     For those modes, I built a small interface that allows my computer
>>     sound card to interface with the radio.
>>     The setup I have now works quite well and is able to work CW from
>>     Writelog as well as MMTTY or PSK.
>>     It does take two different interfaces though, yet both are quite
>>     easy and inexpensive to build.
>>     I use COM port 1 for the CW keying and I use Com port 2 for the
>>     MMTTY/PSK keying/ Data flow.
>>
>>     73,
>>     Gordon
>>     N6WK
>>
>>
>>     John Balsillie wrote:
>>     
>>>     Hi Gordon, using simular keying set up for both WL and Dx4Win. Wonder
>>>       
> if you
>   
>>>     or others have a switching interface for RTTY, different comm port?
>>>       
> What I'm
>   
>>>     using for CW/PTT wont switch RTTY via pins 1 and 4 of the RTTY socket
>>>       
> on the
>   
>>>     FT2K?
>>>
>>>     Cheers
>>>     John ZL1ALZ
>>>
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com
>>>     [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of N6WK
>>>     Sent: Wednesday, 28 May 2008 9:13 a.m.
>>>     To: writelog@contesting.com
>>>     Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Setting up WL with FT-2000
>>>
>>>
>>>     Ok,
>>>       That was the FIX. I installed a 5k resistor from pin 4 on the
>>>       
> serial
>   
>>>     cable to the Base of a NTE-123A transistor.
>>>      I then connected the Emitter to pin 5 ( ground). In did not cut the
>>>     wires in the Serial cable, I just spliced into them. I then connected
>>>     The collector  to the center conductor of my Key plug and also I
>>>     extended pin 5 to the shield cable going to the key  plug.  I plugged
>>>     the key plug into my key jack and   Everything works PERFECT now
>>>       
> using
>   
>>>     only 1 Com port and Windows Vista.
>>>     Thanks guys for all the suggestions.
>>>
>>>     Gordon
>>>     N6WK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>     N6WK wrote:
>>>
>>>       
>>>>     I think I have it figured out. It appears I need to place a small
>>>>     transistor on the DTR line from the Com port to the keying jack.
>>>>     By doing that, i should be able to do everything from the same port.
>>>>     I will build a simple one and let you all know how it works out.
>>>>     thanks.
>>>>     Gordon
>>>>     N6WK
>>>>
>>>>     N6WK wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>         
>>>>>     Hi Marsh,
>>>>>       That must be my problem. I have Com 1 connected to the FT-2000
>>>>>           
> CAT
>   
>>>>>     port and that part works fine. I was under the impression that I
>>>>>           
> could
>   
>>>>>     send CW through the same cable but apparently that is incorrect.
>>>>>     I am running Windows Vista Ultimate  so it looks like I will check
>>>>>           
> out
>   
>>>>>     the DIRECT I/O program and look into an interface.
>>>>>     My computer has 3 Com ports, so there is no shortage of them and I
>>>>>           
> have
>   
>>>>>     the unused LPT1 port since my printer is USB.
>>>>>     Does anyone have a schematic of a Interface I can build and it's
>>>>>           
> wiring
>   
>>>>>     to the radio from either a COM port of the LPT port??
>>>>>     Gordon
>>>>>     N6WK
>>>>>
>>>>>     Marshall Stewart KA5M wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>>>>     I do not have a Yaesu FT-2000, but I have successfully used
>>>>>>             
> WriteLog to
>   
>>>     send
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>     CW to a Ten-Tec Omni VI Plus, a Yaesu FT-1000MP, and a Ten-Tec
>>>>>>             
> Orion II.
>   
>>>>>>     They have all worked pretty much the same, except for selecting
>>>>>>             
> the
>   
>>>     specific
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>     radio I was using in WriteLog.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     First, I have always used one COM port to talk (frequency, mode,
>>>>>>             
> etc.)
>   
>>>     to
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>     the radio.  (Sounds like you have that working.)  Then I use the
>>>>>>             
> LPT
>   
>>>>>>     (parallel printer port) to send CW from the computer to the key
>>>>>>             
> jack of
>   
>>>     the
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>     radio.  This does require a simple switching transistor or
>>>>>>             
> opto-isolator
>   
>>>>>>     interface.  Also, Windows XP won't allow direct control of a
>>>>>>             
> printer
>   
>>>     port,
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>     so I use a program called DIRECT I/O.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I may be incorrect, but I don't think you can use the same COM
>>>>>>             
> port to
>   
>>>     talk
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>     to the radio and send CW.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     KA5M Marsh Stewart
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>     From: writelog-bounces@contesting.com
>>>>>>     [mailto:writelog-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of N6WK
>>>>>>     Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 10:50 AM
>>>>>>     To: writelog@contesting.com
>>>>>>     Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Setting up WL with FT-2000
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Hi Gary and the group.
>>>>>>       Here is what I have for WL.
>>>>>>     I have my FT-2000 connected through a straight through Serial
>>>>>>             
> Cable on
>   
>>>>>>     COM 1. I have the radio Selected as FT-2000 and   the Computer
>>>>>>             
> port set
>   
>>>>>>     to auto in WL. In the port setup, I have selected Com 1 for CW
>>>>>>             
> have
>   
>>>>>>     polling checked and I have COMM PTT set to yes. I have it set for
>>>>>>             
> PC
>   
>>>>>>     generates in the CW Keyer Type box. It polls the radio and shows
>>>>>>             
> the
>   
>>>>>>     correct frequency, so the cable setting appears to be correct for
>>>>>>             
> that
>   
>>>>>>     part at least.
>>>>>>        In this configuration, when I push any of the "F" keys when in
>>>>>>             
> WL, it
>   
>>>>>>     keys the radio but it is a solid carrier.
>>>>>>     If I go into the CW PTT box and change it to LPT pin 16/ Comm RTS,
>>>>>>             
> it
>   
>>>>>>     then will no longer key the radio at all.
>>>>>>     I have Menu # 29 on the radio turned to RTS on, but it does the
>>>>>>             
> same
>   
>>>>>>     thing whether it is on or off.
>>>>>>     I am beginning to wonder if I need some sort of interface between
>>>>>>             
> the
>   
>>>>>>     Radio and Computer for WL to work with the FT-2000
>>>>>>     73,
>>>>>>     Gordon
>>>>>>     N6WK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Gary AL9A wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>     Gordon,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     Have you gone to Setup/Ports yet and defined which port you
>>>>>>>               
> intend to
>   
>>>     use
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>     for CW?  Notice there are three columns for indicating the Com
>>>>>>>               
> ports to
>   
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>     use
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>     for CW, DVK and Antenna relay.  Assuming your CW interface is
>>>>>>>               
> between
>   
>>>     Com1
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>     thru Com4, click the radio button for that port.  If your com
>>>>>>>               
> port is
>   
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>     higher
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>             
>>>>>>>     than Com4 then you will need to go into the writelog.ini file and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>     reassign
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>     the higher numbered port to one between 1 - 4 as that is all WL
>>>>>>>               
> will
>   
>>>     work
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>     with.  While you are there make sure the Rig Type for your CW
>>>>>>>               
> port is
>   
>>>>>>>     defined and set the Baud Rate, Poll and Comm PTT settings.  Also
>>>>>>>               
> on
>   
>>>     that
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>     window check the button at the bottom right hand side called CW
>>>>>>>               
> PTT...
>   
>>>>>>>     Click that and select the radio button for On LPT pin 16/COMM
>>>>>>>               
> RTS.
>   
>>>     That
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>     puts the signal on the RTS line of your Com port.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     73,
>>>>>>>     Gary AL9A
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>     From: "N6WK" <n6wk@n6wk.com>
>>>>>>>     To: <writelog@contesting.com>
>>>>>>>     Sent: May 26, 2008 2:19 PM
>>>>>>>     Subject: [WriteLog] Setting up WL with FT-2000
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>               
>>>>>>>>     Hi All, I just purchased WriteLog.
>>>>>>>>     I am trying to set it up with my FT-2000.
>>>>>>>>     I have my serial cable connected and I can poll the rig. No
>>>>>>>>                 
> problem
>   
>>>>>>>>     there. When I try to use any of the "F" keys, the PTT activates,
>>>>>>>>                 
> but
>   
>>>     NO
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>     CW is being sent.
>>>>>>>>     Can someone please advise what I am doing wrong?
>>>>>>>>     My Yaesu software operates the rig just fine and my MMTTY
>>>>>>>>                 
> software
>   
>>>     works
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>     great with it as well as Digipan and another logging program I
>>>>>>>>                 
> own,
>   
>>>     but
>>>
>>>       
>>>>>>>>     I can't get WL to send any CW. I am sure it is something I am
>>>>>>>>     overlooking, yet I can not seem to figure out what it is.
>>>>>>>>     thanks,
>>>>>>>>     Gordon
>>>>>>>>     N6WK
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>         
>>>       
>
>   

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