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Re: [WriteLog] 2Tone

To: "w0yk@msn.com" <w0yk@msn.com>, "writelog@contesting.com" <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] 2Tone
From: Don AA5AU <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
Reply-to: Don AA5AU <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 21:46:00 -0800 (PST)
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Here's my assessment of 2Tone vs. MMTTY from last weekend's WPX RTTY Contest.

http://rttycontesting.com/contestnotes/2013_wpxrtty.htm


May be some typos, but I wanted to get it out as soon as possible.

73, Don AA5AU




>________________________________
> From: Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com>
>To: writelog@contesting.com 
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] 2Tone
> 
>I've been wrestling with how to really evaluate 2Tone and concluded that the
>only valid way is to have it fully integrated with the contest logger and
>test it under fire in major RTTY contests.  Since the only competitive RTTY
>contest logger that runs 2Tone right now is N1MM Logger, I once again
>attempted to climb its learning after giving up four years ago.
>
>Leading up to the CQ WPX RTTT Contest, I got into every RTTY contest using
>N1MM Logger with MMTTY, DXP38 and 2Tone in parallel.  5-10% of the time one
>of the three copied clearly while the other two did not.  In BARTG, each was
>best about the same amount of those times.  Of course 90-95% of the time all
>three copied perfect and the same.  In FMRE, 2Tone was best far more often.
>This was from my CA QTH which is very different than Aruba, so I was eager
>to see how the three decoders compared in the pileups down here.
>
>First some background.  I needed more than just to "run N1MM Logger".  I
>needed three networked PCs with SO2V running on each of two of them, i.e.,
>SO4V.  On each radio PC, 3-4 decoders ran on the main receiver audio stream
>and a single instance of MMTTY ran on the sub-receiver audio.  The third PC
>had no radio, but ran CC-Cluster and kept a third copy of the log.  Callsign
>stacking had to work flawlessly on the two radio PCs, along with ESM and a
>number key remappings.  There are more details but that gives a notion of
>the complexity that I run with WriteLog and needed to carry through to the
>N1MM Logger configuration.
>
>It seemed like I was making progress balancing all this complexity and
>learning the idiosyncrasies of N1MM Logger.  During FMRE, the weekend prior
>to WPX RTTY, I had pretty good confidence that all this would work good
>enough.  However, as I evolved through the next week, I kept running into
>unacceptable issues that I couldn't resolve well enough.  By late Thursday
>night I got cold feet and bailed.  Friday morning I moved everything back to
>WriteLog.  As Don AA5AU and I discussed on Thursday, I had to think about
>whether I wanted to risk having a weekend of software application issues, as
>compared to having fun contesting with WriteLog and its higher probability
>(for me) of running smoothly.  I greatly regretted giving up 2Tone but I
>feel it was the right decision for last weekend.  WriteLog ran the
>configuration described above perfectly.  There were no glitches other than
>the usual operator QLFs.  2Tone would have increased my rate by reducing the
>number of repeats and allowing me to get more callsigns quicker.
>
>I have to say that K8UT, N2AMG, K6LL, W6SX and others were extremely
>supportive as I struggled to re-learn and configure N1MM Logger for my RTTY
>configuration.  It is the most used logger by far in the CQ RTTY contests
>based on logs submitted.  A lot of top contesters use the program and many
>of them use a lot of the advanced features.  So, there is plenty of evidence
>that it should be able to measure up to the task.
>
>I plan to continue evaluating the feasibility of running N1MM Logger, only
>because 2Tone is not available for WriteLog.  2Tone is the sole reason I am
>considering using N1MM Logger.
>
>Ed P49X (W0YK)
>
>*******************************************************************
>
>Joe W4TV wrote;
>
>It's not likely that 2Tone can be used with Writelog.  2Tone emulates
>the XMMT.ocx interface for MMTTY while the current MMTTY plug-in uses
>the original shared memory interface in MMTTY.exe.  Using 2Tone would
>require a completely new "plug-in" for WriteLog.
>
>
>On 2/12/2013 8:27 AM, Steve AI9T wrote:
>> Anyone figured out how to run 2Tone with Writelog yet?? It would be a
>> nice addition.
>
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