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Re: [WriteLog] 2Tone

To: Don AA5AU <aa5au@bellsouth.net>, "w0yk@msn.com" <w0yk@msn.com>, "writelog@contesting.com" <writelog@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] 2Tone
From: Hector Garcia XE2K <j_hector_garcia@sbcglobal.net>
Date: Thu, 14 Feb 2013 22:44:17 -0800 (PST)
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Don
Very interesting  your  notes from this  WPX and the use of the N1MM with 2tone 
N1MM is not for me, I  tested several years ago and was a NO NO.
Now installed again  and works fine the first try, but later show that 
 interesting browser asking to report
and  is where uninstall  N1MM 
I'm very confident using the Writelog,  I have a very basic set up  for 
contesting, one radio 2 vfo, MMTTY and clone or 2 instances
and several years with no problems, for that reason  I will continue using it, 
but will look how to get the properties of 2Tone  in this
log  at least visual  as confirmation or salvation of the number or the correct 
call, saving a lot of AGN.
Thank you again for sharing your experiences, I found all the time very 
educational all those notes 
 J.Hector Garcia  XE2K / AD6D
Mexicali B.C  DM22fp /Heber CA 
P.O.Box 73 
El Centro CA 92244-0073
http://xe2k.net







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From:Don AA5AU <aa5au@bellsouth.net>
To:"w0yk@msn.com" <w0yk@msn.com>; "writelog@contesting.com" 
<writelog@contesting.com>
Sent: Thu, February 14, 2013 9:46:19 PM
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] 2Tone

Here's my assessment of 2Tone vs. MMTTY from last weekend's WPX RTTY Contest.

http://rttycontesting.com/contestnotes/2013_wpxrtty.htm


May be some typos, but I wanted to get it out as soon as possible.

73, Don AA5AU




>________________________________
> From: Ed Muns <w0yk@msn.com>
>To: writelog@contesting.com 
>Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 10:19 PM
>Subject: Re: [WriteLog] 2Tone
> 
>I've been wrestling with how to really evaluate 2Tone and concluded that the
>only valid way is to have it fully integrated with the contest logger and
>test it under fire in major RTTY contests.  Since the only competitive RTTY
>contest logger that runs 2Tone right now is N1MM Logger, I once again
>attempted to climb its learning after giving up four years ago.
>
>Leading up to the CQ WPX RTTT Contest, I got into every RTTY contest using
>N1MM Logger with MMTTY, DXP38 and 2Tone in parallel.  5-10% of the time one
>of the three copied clearly while the other two did not.  In BARTG, each was
>best about the same amount of those times.  Of course 90-95% of the time all
>three copied perfect and the same.  In FMRE, 2Tone was best far more often.
>This was from my CA QTH which is very different than Aruba, so I was eager
>to see how the three decoders compared in the pileups down here.
>
>First some background.  I needed more than just to "run N1MM Logger".  I
>needed three networked PCs with SO2V running on each of two of them, i.e.,
>SO4V.  On each radio PC, 3-4 decoders ran on the main receiver audio stream
>and a single instance of MMTTY ran on the sub-receiver audio.  The third PC
>had no radio, but ran CC-Cluster and kept a third copy of the log.  Callsign
>stacking had to work flawlessly on the two radio PCs, along with ESM and a
>number key remappings.  There are more details but that gives a notion of
>the complexity that I run with WriteLog and needed to carry through to the
>N1MM Logger configuration.
>
>It seemed like I was making progress balancing all this complexity and
>learning the idiosyncrasies of N1MM Logger.  During FMRE, the weekend prior
>to WPX RTTY, I had pretty good confidence that all this would work good
>enough.  However, as I evolved through the next week, I kept running into
>unacceptable issues that I couldn't resolve well enough.  By late Thursday
>night I got cold feet and bailed.  Friday morning I moved everything back to
>WriteLog.  As Don AA5AU and I discussed on Thursday, I had to think about
>whether I wanted to risk having a weekend of software application issues, as
>compared to having fun contesting with WriteLog and its higher probability
>(for me) of running smoothly.  I greatly regretted giving up 2Tone but I
>feel it was the right decision for last weekend.  WriteLog ran the
>configuration described above perfectly.  There were no glitches other than
>the usual operator QLFs.  2Tone would have increased my rate by reducing the
>number of repeats and allowing me to get more callsigns quicker.
>
>I have to say that K8UT, N2AMG, K6LL, W6SX and others were extremely
>supportive as I struggled to re-learn and configure N1MM Logger for my RTTY
>configuration.  It is the most used logger by far in the CQ RTTY contests
>based on logs submitted.  A lot of top contesters use the program and many
>of them use a lot of the advanced features.  So, there is plenty of evidence
>that it should be able to measure up to the task.
>
>I plan to continue evaluating the feasibility of running N1MM Logger, only
>because 2Tone is not available for WriteLog.  2Tone is the sole reason I am
>considering using N1MM Logger.
>
>Ed P49X (W0YK)
>
>*******************************************************************
>
>Joe W4TV wrote;
>
>It's not likely that 2Tone can be used with Writelog.  2Tone emulates
>the XMMT.ocx interface for MMTTY while the current MMTTY plug-in uses
>the original shared memory interface in MMTTY.exe.  Using 2Tone would
>require a completely new "plug-in" for WriteLog.
>
>
>On 2/12/2013 8:27 AM, Steve AI9T wrote:
>> Anyone figured out how to run 2Tone with Writelog yet?? It would be a
>> nice addition.
>
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