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Re: [WriteLog] Rttyrite on extended desktop

To: "Dean St. Hill" <dmsthill@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Rttyrite on extended desktop
From: "Gary AL9A" <al9a@mtaonline.net>
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2013 12:26:20 -0800
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Dean,

Thanks so much for your insight into my extended desktop problem with WL.  
After doing a bit of research on my machine I suspect you are onto something 
about the amount of memory available to the graphics card to run the extended 
desktop.

My Dell Inspiron 1720 laptop has a Intel Duo Core CPU at 2.00 GHz with 2 GB of 
memory running on Vista Home Premium 32 bit OS.  The onboard graphics card is a 
NVIDIA GeForce 8600M GT and the system information specs show that it only has 
a dedicated video memory of 256 MB with a shared system memory of 767 MB.  The 
dedicated and shared memories summed together makes up half of the computer's 
total memory!  I'm sue that this is where the problem lies.  There is simply 
not enough dedicated memory available to the graphics card to efficiently run 
the extended desktop and allow it it to perform all functions that can be done 
on the main laptop monitor.  At least I now have a good idea of what is going 
on and can see there is no fix in WL that will solve the problem.

So I think it is time to seriously consider upgrading the station PC to 
something more robust.  Unfortunately, just this week I had to replace an old 
XP system machine in the house with a new Dell desktop machine that has 8 GB of 
memory and a 1 Terabyte hard drive.  It is now the fastest and most powerful PC 
in the house, but unfortunately I cannot "borrow" it from the rest of the 
family to be my shack computer.  So, I will have to wait a bit for the credit 
card balance to improve and then look at a new machine for ham radio use.  
While shopping on the Dell website I noticed they have a really nice mounting 
system for two side by side wide screen monitors!  I'm really drooling over 
that setup!

Thanks again for the information Dean.  Hope to print you soon in another RTTY 
contest.  Just hope the signals are strong enough to decode in my main 
RittyRite window and not in one of the clones!

73,
Gary AL9A

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Dean St. Hill 
  To: Gary AL9A 
  Sent: April 16, 2013 4:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [WriteLog] Rttyrite on extended desktop


  Gary


  I think it may be some issue with the drivers and or the actual video 
hardware. I'm using a desktop setup with Win 7 and a mid-level dual monitor 
graphics card which is really for gaming and so on. Writelog allows me to click 
on cloned window calls without a problem whether on the extended monitor or 
not. I see no difference using either monitor.


  I do recall having a number of problems however when running an old Dell 
laptop under WinXP with an extended monitor. In that case I would use the 
feature like a projector setup where what is on the laptop screen is also on 
the monitor and by using the monitor's maximum resolution I found I would have 
no problem. However the problem would always re-occur if I tried the "extended 
desktop feature". In that case I put it down to one of three things - limited 
XP support for multiple monitors, lack of driver support or limits of the 
actual video hardware to support what was a 1600x1280 display but not the 
extended monitor function which I figured would have required more video memory 
than was available on the built-in video card - which I think was maybe 256K.


  My desktop has 1 Gig of video ram and Windows 7 has the drivers natively - so 
I'm not even sure whether last time I scrubbed the system whether I loaded the 
ATI Radeon 5700 drivers.


  So in terms of a solution I suspect if the hardware is up to it, it may 
require updated drivers or an upgrade to Windows 7. I don't know how you could 
confirm whether it is a hardware issue. 


  Hope that helps at least to point you in the direction of a solution.




  Regards and 73's


  Dean - 8P6SH











  On Tue, Apr 16, 2013 at 10:10 AM, Gary AL9A <al9a@mtaonline.net> wrote:

    I've had this problem for sometime and keep forgetting to ask the group if 
others see the same thing.

    My main monitor is a Dell laptop and I have a HP widescreen monitor setup 
as an extended desktop.  When running a clone RttyRite window for RTTY on the 
extended desktop left clicking on a call or the exchange doesn't populate the 
Entry window fields.  I have discovered if I right click on a call WL will push 
that call onto the stack and I can then pop it from the stack to the call field.

    If I drag this clone window to the laptop monitor left clicking works 
normally.  Since the laptop screen is significantly smaller than the extended 
desktop I cannot fit all the open clone windows on that monitor and see the 
other log windows.  I would like to have the clone windows open on the extended 
desktop respond to a left mouse click and populate the Entry window.  I know of 
at least one other individual, Bob WB2COY, who has indicated he has this same 
problem with his extended desktop.  Steve N9OH at WL support indicates that 
Wayne has multiple monitors and this is not an issue for him.  He also 
indicates that it may be a problem with my computer setup.

    My OS is Vista Home Premium, which I know is a POS, but still everything 
else I open on the extended desktop works ok.  Word, Excel, Power Point, 
EditPro Lite, CC User, etc.  All these programs respond correctly to mouse 
clicks normally.  The only difference is when clicking on something on the 
extended desktop none of these applications are trying to populate a field back 
on the main monitor.  So, the question is, is anyone else seeing this behavior 
by RttyRite on an extended desktop?  Has anyone ever had the problem and fixed 
it?  Is there a WL ini setting somewhere that is improperly set?  Any help 
appreciated.

    73,
    Gary AL9A
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