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Re: Topband: Skywaves from Monopole Surface Waves

To: "Richard Fry" <rfry@adams.net>, <topband@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: Topband: Skywaves from Monopole Surface Waves
From: "Tom W8JI" <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Reply-to: Tom W8JI <w8ji@w8ji.com>
Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2012 19:49:08 -0400
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The measured fields by the consultant show that no "notch" exists in the elevation pattern of that monopole from 0-3 degrees. Nor would one appear in the elevation pattern of ANY monopole up to 5/8-wave in height.


Anyone who drives away from an AM BC station would quickly realize the field continues for a very long distance and is not that much weaker than direct wave until we get a fair distance out, perhaps 10-20 km for a few dB down from direct wave.

This is pretty old stuff.

The misconception comes from EZNEC and other programs that calculate pattern at many wavelengths away from the antenna over flat earth.

On several occasions the author of EZNEC told me he never wanted to include TOA in his program because it would be misused. Since a competing program had it, he reluctantly included it. I may be mistaken, but I think he mentioned EZNEC calculated pattern at 50 or 100 wavelengths, not infinite distance.

73 Tom
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