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Re: Topband: CQ Zones

To: martin@ok1rr.com
Subject: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
From: Glenn Wyant <va3dx@sympatico.ca>
Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2021 15:23:28 -0500
List-post: <mailto:topband@contesting.com>
And Martin there is no need for you stay here.
Obviously you don't need us , you are so much better than us ft8 Cw ssb rtty 
etc etc ops
Glenn VA3DX

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> On Mar 9, 2021, at 11:40, Martin Kratoska <martin@ok1rr.com> wrote:
> 
> Bob et al,
> 
> all these rules can be preprogrammed into SV5DKL's robot which can "do the 
> QSO". Otherwise I can tell my dog where to paw, he would be possibly a better 
> FT8 "operator" than mine.
> 
> There is no need of ears, hands, brain or any knowledge. All the task can be 
> robotized. This does DEFINITELY NOT qualify as ham radio. I am very sorry 
> that I don't have any better news for you.
> 
> 73,
> Martin, OK1RR
> 
> P.S. Any FT8 yes/no dispute is meaningless, at least in this mailing list, 
> isn't?
> 
> 
> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 17:19 Chortek, Robert L. napsal(a):
>> Actually, it is ham radio.
>> 
>> Have you spent any time with the mode?
>> 
>> For example,
>> 
>> 1. Have you identified a country you need for a bond slot or ATNO?
>> 
>> 2.  Have you determined the best time of year, time of day, and band to see 
>> if a station from that country is on?
>> 
>> 3. Have you searched the decodes daily for a station from that country?
>> 
>> 4. After spending days hunting that DX, have you FINALLY managed to be there 
>> when the propagation was favorable?
>> 
>> 5.  Have you then, after all that, called that DX and made the contact?
>> 
>> If that does not qualify as ham radio, I’m not sure what does.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Bob/AA6VB
>> Robert L. Chortek
>> 
>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 8:04 AM, ok1tn <ok1tn@seznam.cz> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> [External Email]
>> 
>> FT4 FT8 is just a computer game. It's not a ham radio
>> OK1TN
>> --
>> 73 Slavek Zeler
>> 
>> 
>> ---------- Původní e-mail ----------
>> Od: Chortek, Robert L. <Robert.Chortek@berliner.com>
>> Komu: Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com>
>> Datum: 9. 3. 2021 16:31:21
>> Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
>> THANK YOU JOE! That pretty much captures the debate.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Bob/AA6VB
>> Robert L. Chortek
>> 
>>> On Mar 9, 2021, at 7:27 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV <lists@subich.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> [External Email]
>>> 
>>> Oh PLEASE! You sound just like AM phone operators when SSB came
>>> along. And spark operators when CW started to replace it.
>>> 
>>> The first DX was nothing more than single letters ...
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> ... Joe, W4TV
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On 2021-03-09 10:10 AM, Karel Matousek wrote:
>>>> I agree wit Martin OK1RR.
>>>> 
>>>> I cannot endorse FT4, FT8 for the ARRL DXCC Program.
>>>> 
>>>> IMHO, this should NEVER be allowed unless qualified in a separate rules
>>>> category!
>>>> 
>>>> Karel OK1CF
>>>> ______________________________________________________________
>>>>> Od: "Martin Kratoska" <martin@ok1rr.com>
>>>>> Komu: topband@contesting.com
>>>>> Datum: 09.03.2021 15:37
>>>>> Předmět: Re: Topband: CQ Zones
>>>> Oh, FT8 should be proclaimed as illegal for DXCC (WAZ, WAS etc.) in
>>>> mixed categories.
>>>> This "mode" should be counted completely separated from traditional
>>>> modes like CW or SSB.
>>>> 
>>>> 73,
>>>> Martin, OK1RR
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Dne 09. 03. 21 v 15:16 Ian Fugler napsal(a):
>>>>> Hi, Dave
>>>>> 
>>>>> Zone 23 - JT5DX will be your man. He is active in contests and puts
>>>> out a good signal.
>>>>> Zone 24 - will be more of a challenge. I have worked XX9D and a
>>>> couple of BY stations. But you may need to use FT8 for the BY stations,
>>>> since they seem strongly to prefer that mode.
>>>>> 73 and GL!
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ian G4iiY
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