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Re: [TowerTalk] 160M inverted L

To: "Alan C. Zack" <k7acz@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] 160M inverted L
From: ersmar@comcast.net
Date: Mon, 01 Dec 2003 21:11:16 +0000
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Alan:

     An easier solution might be to install three sloper wires, one for each 
band.  The issue then would be where to tap the tower for optimum performance 
(insert your own definition of optimum here).

     Check out the TowerTalk archives for several weeks worth of threads on the 
subject of slopers beginning with the Jan 1, 2002 (last year's) postings.  IMHO 
that was one of the best (my definition: most educational and practical) 
postings I've ever read here*.  I followed N4GK's et ux advice and was able to 
construct an effective 80M sloper on my tower that already had a 160M shunt 
feed on it.

73 de
Gene Smar  AD3F
* True north and bee sting antidotes were up there, too. 
> In this situation, what is your opinion of a sloper using a SGC tuner
> at the top of the tower attached to the sloper wire with the tower
> acting as the counterpoise for the sloper.  I plan to do this at my
> QTH to give me 40, 80, and maybe 160.  Your ideas please.
> 73
> 
> kb9cry@comcast.net wrote:
> > 
> > All that dipoles do on 160M is to warm the clouds above your house.  I'd 
> > shunt 
> feed the tower.  That's what I do and it's a killer.  Just remember that 
> whatever you do, you'll want to investigate low band receiving antennas also. 
>  
> You want vertically polarized, low angle of radiation transmit signal for 
> 160M 
> but that also will receive all the vertically polarized noise from around the 
> area therefore the need for receiving antennas.  If you have no room for a 
> beverage (500 ft. min per my experience) then investigate the loops, 
> pennants, 
> flags, etc.  I have a rotatable delta loop that works very well.  I can send 
> some urls of info if you need.  Gd luck, Phil  KB9CRY
> > > Hello all
> > > I'm trying to get something up for 160m.  I've been using my 80m loop
> > > and a tuner but its real hard to tune and not very effecient.  Maby when
> > > I get my balanced tuner project done that won't be a problem but for
> > > now it is.  Thinking about a 160m inverted L but space is still a problem.
> > > I can support the vertical portion with my 40' tower and I have about 80'
> > > from it to a tall wooden pole. Thats too short and too close but thats 
> > > all I
> > > have to work with.  I try to avoid loaded antennas because of effeciency
> > > but what if I added a helical loaded section near the end of the 
> > > horizontal
> > > leg (opposite end from the vertical segment)??
> > > I would end up with a 38' vertical section,  a 70' horizontal section and
> > > about a 5' section of helical loaded wire.  That gives me about 5' for 
> > > rope
> > > on the pole end.
> > > Any thouights on this or should I go back to a low dipole or some 
> > > commercial
> > > vertical and live with it???
> > > Thanks
> > > JerryC
> > > KC8TES
> > >
> > >

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>                                      Alan Zack
>                      Amateur Radio Station K7ACZ
>                          Las Vegas, Nevada, USA
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> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless 
> Weather 
> Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions 
> and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
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Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions 
and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.

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