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[TowerTalk] Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 51

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Subject: [TowerTalk] Re: TowerTalk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 51
From: Todd Ruby <rubywine@erols.com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:46:05 -0400
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Dave
has your order with caggiano tari etc left italy yet. i hope so but let me
know

todd

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> Today's Topics:
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> 1. Rotator for TMM433EHD Crank-up Tower (LKBrownMD@cs.com)
> 2. RE: HyGain 203 (Les Kalmus)
> 3. RE: CAT 5 as Rotator cable (Michael Hatzakis K3MH)
> 4. have one of these? (KH6DV@cs.com)
> 5. CAT5 as Rotator cable (DF3KV)
> 6. Re: CAT 5 as Rotator cable, sprinkler wire (KI7WX@aol.com)
> 7. F12 antennas for sale (Natan Huffman)
> 8. Re: CAT 5 as Rotator cable, sprinkler wire (KI7WX@aol.com)
> 9. Re: CAT 5 as Rotator cable, sprinkler wire (david jordan)
> 10. Re: have one of these? (n8de@thepoint.net)
> 
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> 
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2004 16:44:27 EDT
> From: LKBrownMD@cs.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] Rotator for TMM433EHD Crank-up Tower
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <3e.4052e4ff.2e020b2b@cs.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> Towertalkians,
> 
> I'm hoping someone out there might have experience with this question and
> could provide some help.  I am replacing the rotator in my U.S. Tower
> TMM433EHD 
> crank-up tower (specially ordered with capacity for 15 sq ft of antennas at 70
> mph).  The previous rotator, a Yaesu G1000DXA, was trashed in a recent
> windstorm.  I will have a 4 element M Squared 20 M. yagi, 2 element short-boom
> homebrew 30 M yagi, and the shortened Force 12 40 M yagi:  totalling around
> 12.4 sq 
> ft.  I would like to use the Orion 2800P rotator, but I'm not sure if it will
> fit in the tower.  Anyone with any experience in this?  Any suggestions for
> another rotator, like the CATS RD-1800, Yaesu G2800DXA, or the Hy-Gain
> tailtwister or HDR300, that would fit on the rotor shelf?  I'm pretty sure the
> Alfa-spid and "Big Boy" rotators won't fit.
> 
> Thanks for any help!
> 
> Lee, KI7UR
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 2
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 15:15:45 -0400
> From: "Les Kalmus" <w2lk@earthlink.net>
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] HyGain 203
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <LOEOIOMPNMEGOCGLCHGOMEHFCHAA.w2lk@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> TTers,
> 
> I seem to be getting duplicates of certain messages from TT. They are spaced
> anywhere from 20-30 minutes apart.
> Has anyone else seen this problem and is there something that can be done to
> correct it?
> 
> TIA.
> 
> 73, Les W2LK
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Chuck Dietz
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 2:32 PM
> To: 'joe sloss'; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] HyGain 203
> 
> 
> Crashcraft sells them separately.  Catalogs for antennas are online at their
> site.
> 
> Chuck W5PR
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of joe sloss
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 12:07 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] HyGain 203
> 
> Does anyone have a parts antenna as I need the Beta match rod.  Will try MFJ
> if necessary. Thanks, Joe k7mks
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> 
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> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 17 Jun 2004 19:28:26 -0700
> From: "Michael Hatzakis K3MH" <k3mh@arrl.net>
> Subject: RE: [TowerTalk] CAT 5 as Rotator cable
> To: "Tower (K8RI)" <tower@rogerhalstead.com>, "Martin Sole"
> <msole@loxinfo.co.th>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <FHEDJEFBECLLBHNAOBOOMEKMEEAA.k3mh@arrl.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Wow, not even close to the guage needed for the power rating.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: towertalk-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com]On Behalf Of Tower (K8RI)
> Sent: Thursday, June 17, 2004 7:24 PM
> To: Martin Sole; towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] CAT 5 as Rotator cable
> 
> 
> My own thoughts are Cat-5 is a tad fragile. As I recall it's solid instead
> of stranded with the wires loose inside what amounts to a  thin walled
> plastic tube.
> 
> 
> Roger Halstead (K8RI, EN73 & ARRL Life Member)
> N833R, World's Oldest Debonair (S# CD-2)
> www.rogerhalstead.com
> 
>> The hole is dug, the tower will be up in, I hope, a matter of weeks, the
>> store room has been inventoried and normal service will be resumed soon.
>> Amongst all the 'stuff' I have a 100 metre drum of bright red CAT5 cable.
>> What I don't have is anything really suitable to connect my Yaesu G800SDX
> to
>> its' control box.
>> 
>> Question. Will CAT5 do the job?
>> 
>> Distance is about 55 metres, say 180 feet.
>> 
>> I would use one pair each for the motor winding and three separate wires
> for
>> the direction pot, shield would be bonded to the tower and ground system.
>> 
>> 73's
>> Martin, HS0ZED
>> 
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>> 
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> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
> 
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> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 00:41:00 EDT
> From: KH6DV@cs.com
> Subject: [TowerTalk] have one of these?
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <154.37e070f8.2e03cc5c@cs.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> I'M getting desperate, I cant seem to find a used 2 element short 40
> anywhere. I know they are in demand and get snatched up quickly, many never
> get 
> mentioned in the ham ads because there is always a local buddy or club member
> waiting to buy it. One of you guys must have one stashed away in the storage
> shed or 
> garage, I'm not above begging at this point.  I'M tired of the uphill slog
> with my dipole, I need a little more oomph on 40. From out here I wait till
> the 
> band to open realizing by the time it does most of you will have migrated to
> 80 meters an hour before. I'M left to collect nice signal reports from the
> last 
> two guys left on the band while 80 wont open for several hours. I am willing
> (happily) to rebuild one, replace missing parts, promise I will give it a good
> home or whatever it takes within reason. Take a look at that pile of aluminum
> in the garage and ask yourself it you will ever really put it up, if not than
> have pity on a poor KH6 and make a deal.
> 
> With Aloha
> Ron KH6DV (KH6VV)
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 21:30:29 +0200
> From: "DF3KV" <df3kv@aol.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] CAT5 as Rotator cable
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <002001c4556a$bf378e40$cee4fea9@ap200>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="Windows-1252"
> 
> Michael, K3MH wrote:
> 
>> Wow, not even close to the guage needed for the power rating.
> 
> Michael, what is the power rating of the G800SDX?
> Yeasu recommends just 20 AWG...
> 
> By the way, CAT5 is not made for outdoor use, so lifetime of the
> jacket will be short and depending on the sunshine hours
> 
> 73
> Peter
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:34:02 -0400
> From: KI7WX@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] CAT 5 as Rotator cable, sprinkler wire
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <3098F71F.3F827C1D.0000E22A@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> N0RQ asked about 18ga sprinkler cable for rotors.
> 
> I used this wire at my NC station to feed a T2X which was later repalced with
> an M2 Orion. Worked fine on both rotors. I had about a 250-300 foot run and I
> doubled up two conductors for the motor leads. If I'd started with the Orion
> I'd have used 14-3 instead of the sprinkler cable though.
> 
> While bopping through Home Despot the other day I noticed they now carry the
> sprinkler cable in 10 x 18ga and the cost is decent.
> 
> The small guage cat5 cables worked fine to feed numerous RCS8V boxes. Wire was
> outside for a few years and the jacket on the cat5 was still perfect when we
> took it all down.
> 
> Mark
> KI7WX/2
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:32:55 -0400
> From: "Natan Huffman" <natan@twcny.rr.com>
> Subject: [TowerTalk] F12 antennas for sale
> To: <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Message-ID: <200406181932.i5IJWuv2020202@ms-smtp-03.nyroc.rr.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
> 
> I have 2 each XR-5 multiband 20, 17, 15, 12 & 10 meter antennas for sale.
> These were in the air less than two weeks.  Both are complete, tuned and
> include the B1 balun.  One is perfect, the other has a slightly bent 20
> meter reflector.  $600.00 for one and the other is $500.
> 
> 
> 
> Cannot ship because I don't have the time to disassemble and package, so
> it's a pick-up in Ithaca NY.  Please refer to
> http://www.force12inc.com/XR5-intro-r2.htm for specifications.    These were
> used in a stack and performed very well.  Buy both and I'll include the
> matching box (Array Solutions) with the sale.
> 
> 
> 
> The replacements are a stack of C31XR's.
> 
> 
> 
> 73
> 
> 
> 
> Natan W6XR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:34:04 -0400
> From: KI7WX@aol.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] CAT 5 as Rotator cable, sprinkler wire
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <0F85DD8C.73E28686.0000E22A@aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> N0RQ asked about 18ga sprinkler cable for rotors.
> 
> I used this wire at my NC station to feed a T2X which was later repalced with
> an M2 Orion. Worked fine on both rotors. I had about a 250-300 foot run and I
> doubled up two conductors for the motor leads. If I'd started with the Orion
> I'd have used 14-3 instead of the sprinkler cable though.
> 
> While bopping through Home Despot the other day I noticed they now carry the
> sprinkler cable in 10 x 18ga and the cost is decent.
> 
> The small guage cat5 cables worked fine to feed numerous RCS8V boxes. Wire was
> outside for a few years and the jacket on the cat5 was still perfect when we
> took it all down.
> 
> Mark
> KI7WX/2
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 9
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 15:55:51 -0400
> From: david jordan <wa3gin@erols.com>
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] CAT 5 as Rotator cable, sprinkler wire
> To: KI7WX@aol.com
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID: <40D348C7.8030306@erols.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
> 
> Some day you should go measure the voltage at the rotor and compare it
> to the voltage at the control box.  The results might lead you to
> upgrade the guage of
> wire you're using.  Publish the results for the list.
> 
> 73,
> dave
> wa3gin
> 
> KI7WX@aol.com wrote:
> 
>> N0RQ asked about 18ga sprinkler cable for rotors.
>> 
>> I used this wire at my NC station to feed a T2X which was later repalced with
>> an M2 Orion. Worked fine on both rotors. I had about a 250-300 foot run and I
>> doubled up two conductors for the motor leads. If I'd started with the Orion
>> I'd have used 14-3 instead of the sprinkler cable though.
>> 
>> While bopping through Home Despot the other day I noticed they now carry the
>> sprinkler cable in 10 x 18ga and the cost is decent.
>> 
>> The small guage cat5 cables worked fine to feed numerous RCS8V boxes. Wire
>> was outside for a few years and the jacket on the cat5 was still perfect when
>> we took it all down.
>> 
>> Mark
>> KI7WX/2
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
>> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any
>> questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> TowerTalk mailing list
>> TowerTalk@contesting.com
>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------
> 
> Message: 10
> Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 16:01:10 -0400 (EDT)
> From: n8de@thepoint.net
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] have one of these?
> To: KH6DV@cs.com
> Cc: towertalk@contesting.com
> Message-ID:
> <1104.69.39.82.38.1087588870.squirrel@mx2.confluentasp.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1
> 
> Ron [& all}
> I have a TET 3-el 40m yagi in my yard that has NEVER been up in the air,
> but is assembled [getting tired of moving it to mow!]
> It has a director and two driven elements.
> A bit heavy .. about 90 pounds or so.  Can be disassembled for shipping,
> or partially disassembled for pickup.
> Have instruction manual, also.
> Make me an offer I can't refuse [you pay shipping and packaging charges],
> but do NOT embarass me OR yourself with some VERY LOW offer.
> Don
> N8DE
> 
>> I'M getting desperate, I cant seem to find a used 2 element short 40
>> anywhere. I know they are in demand and get snatched up quickly, many
>> never get
>> mentioned in the ham ads because there is always a local buddy or club
>> member
>> waiting to buy it. One of you guys must have one stashed away in the
>> storage shed or
>> garage, I'm not above begging at this point.  I'M tired of the uphill slog
>> with my dipole, I need a little more oomph on 40. From out here I wait
>> till the
>> band to open realizing by the time it does most of you will have migrated
>> to
>> 80 meters an hour before. I'M left to collect nice signal reports from the
>> last
>> two guys left on the band while 80 wont open for several hours. I am
>> willing
>> (happily) to rebuild one, replace missing parts, promise I will give it a
>> good
>> home or whatever it takes within reason. Take a look at that pile of
>> aluminum
>> in the garage and ask yourself it you will ever really put it up, if not
>> than
>> have pity on a poor KH6 and make a deal.
>> 
>> With Aloha
>> Ron KH6DV (KH6VV)
>> _______________________________________________
>> 
>> See: http://www.mscomputer.com  for "Self Supporting Towers", "Wireless
>> Weather Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with
>> any questions and ask for Sherman, W2FLA.
>> 
>> _______________________________________________
>> TowerTalk mailing list
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>> http://lists.contesting.com/mailman/listinfo/towertalk
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> End of TowerTalk Digest, Vol 18, Issue 51
> *****************************************

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