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Re: [TowerTalk] Horizontal Loops

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Horizontal Loops
From: "jerryc" <jerryc@clinchrivercorp.com>
Date: Sun, 15 Aug 2004 12:38:19 -0400
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Tim
Loop perimiter length and corner positions determines the lobe pattern.  You
don't necessarily
have to worry about the corner angles.  EZNEC will give you plot patterns
and all you would
need to do is get the locate the supports so the lobe directions would be
where you want them.
JerryC
KC8TES




--- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Makins, EI8IC" <contesting@eircom.net>
To: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
Cc: "TowerTalk" <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Horizontal Loops


> So, if the loop is big enough, and has the right angles, it becomes a
useful
> DX antenna ? The next question would have to be: How do you work out the
> required angles ?
>
> I was just wondering what kind of wire antenna for DX might be useful if I
> put up poles at the 4 corners of an acre of land.
>
> 73s Tim EI8IC
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Tom Rauch" <w8ji@contesting.com>
> To: "Tim Makins, EI8IC" <contesting@eircom.net>; "TowerTalk"
> <towertalk@contesting.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 11:12 AM
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Horizontal Loops
>
>
> > > If a folded dipole performs like a normal dipole, why
> > doesn't a horizontal
> > > loop perform like a rhombic ?
> >
> > Because a Rhombic is diamond-shaped uni- or bi-directional
> > antenna normally more than 2 WL on a leg and has the angles
> > adjusted so the lobes from all four sides align at a low
> > wave angle.
> >
> > A loop generally has no particular adjustment of angles or
> > length.
> >
> > A Rhombic also has very poor efficiency along with many
> > spurious lobes, and so is not really a very high gain
> > antenna for the physical area. The big Rhombic at ARRL HQ
> > for example was reported to have about the same signal as a
> > three element monoband yagi. They do however produce useable
> > patterns over very wide bandwidths.
> >
> > 73 Tom
> >
> >
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Stations", and lot's more.  Call Toll Free, 1-800-333-9041 with any questions 
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