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Re: [TowerTalk] Overlapping or soldered radials for 4 Square?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Overlapping or soldered radials for 4 Square?
From: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
Reply-to: Tonno Vahk <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
Date: Tue, 21 Nov 2006 10:41:45 +0200
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Thanks Tim,

I was also adviced to avoid radials crossing if they are not insulated. 
Well, at the end the difference is small if any, that's true.

So as I have insulated wire, I will maybe put still all the radials in full 
lenght (option 2), it seems easier and I also have more wire down on the 
ground then:)

Look for ES5RR this weekend from my station. Toivo will be running SOAB.

73
Tonno
ES5TV

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Tim Duffy K3LR" <k3lr@k3lr.com>
To: "Tonno Vahk" <tonno.vahk@mail.ee>
Cc: <towertalk@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2006 10:45 PM
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Overlapping or soldered radials for 4 Square?


> Hello Tonno!
>
> At the end of the day there is probably little if any difference between 
> the two
> methods you described.
>
> I opted for your choice #1 when I installed my Comtek 4 squares
> (two for 80 meters, one on 20 and one on 10 with 3 more coming this 
> winter!).
>
> I used 3 inch copper strap for the buss connection point.
> The buss interconnects each vertical to the other forming an "X".
>
> The pictures on the K3LR web site show the installation in action.
> http://www.k3lr.com
>
> I'll look for your big signal on 1.8 MC this weekend!
>
> 73!
> Tim K3LR
>
> Tonno Vahk wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have got my full size 1/4 wl aluminium tubing 160m 4 Square up and 
>> running
>> with Comtek hybrid coupler. I use basically ground mounted verticals
>> (isolator about 1m from ground) and intend to put down ca 64 ground 
>> mounted
>> radials per each vertical.
>>
>> Does someone have an opinion about if I should:
>>
>> 1. use one common "buss line" inside the square (in cross shape) and 
>> solder
>> all the connecting radials there cutting them to exact length till buss 
>> line
>> or
>>
>> 2. Put down 1/4wl radials to each direction letting them overlap inside 
>> the
>> square and not worry about connections?
>>
>> I tend to prefer the latter for the ease on installation and connect 
>> those
>> radials that are exactly from one vertical to another to both verticals 
>> thus
>> connecting the ground screens by them.
>>
>> Will soon send some links to pictures also and some test results. Have
>> almost had no time to test it yet but it does play great as expected!:)
>>
>> 73
>> Tonno
>> ES5TV
>>
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