Yup!
Those countries are heavy in STEM degrees, while we are heavy in what
are basically useless degrees.
Degrees in science? Those are too hard, so they opt for the easy stuff
and still end up with mediocre grades. Still the powers that be, harp
on that difference in earnings potential a degree brings. Of course
they'll gladly loan those same, unsuited for college students, money
that easy degree will never be capable of paying off. Can't get a job
with a Bachelor's degree? Just borrow more money for an advanced degree
in the same field. More debt and still no job. A course on money
management (with good grades) should be required for any college
entrance. Teach them how not to live on credit. That's never gonna happen!
When we were young, the goals were degrees in Chemistry, Physics, EE,
Chem E, or teaching. Hobbies tended to be oriented toward the sciences.
Most colleges had ham radio clubs. Now days a Bachelor's degree only
gives the student the tools to learn a profession once hired. Hence,
with degrees, but no practical experience, jobs are difficult to find.
Locally, the hams are getting involved, starting, electronics, science,
Astronomy, and ham clubs. Kids are flocking to these clubs.(some
advisors are retired PHDs who have a love for learning) Some are earning
their ham tickets. I should point out, that Midland, MI and the
surrounding area is highly science oriented with lots of PHDs in
chemistry and physics. Hundreds of chemical and electrical engineering
jobs. So the kids get a taste of these sciences through these clubs
that make learning fun instead of something to be endured. They explore
fields ignored by the standard high school courses and give them a
reason to be prepared for college.
Most call centers are the starting point, or ground floor, with the
techs reading from scripts. Many, "from over there" are very difficult
to understand, which is a growing problem:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johntamny/2011/04/16/india-and-the-economic-folly-of-a-college-degree/#681f7f981d9a
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Roger (K8RI)
On 7/11/2016 Monday 1:13 PM, Jim Thomson wrote:
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2016 23:27:58 -0400
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] AES SK
A thought:
I read that in another generation or two, India will have more people
with 4 year college degrees than the total US population. Can China be
far behind? They have highly qualified people who WANT to work, while
we have many college grads who want to tell their employers what they
will do. I've seen a drastic change in new hire attitudes in my 50 plus
years in industry
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Roger (K8RI)
## I ran into this young fellow the other day..working night shift at local
711. he was the only one
in there that knows up from down. real bright. Turns out he is one of our
Syrian refugees..that arrived here
in town not too long ago. Turns out he has a masters degree in electrical
engineering.....from a university
in Jordan..plus a lot more education. Aged 25. he applies to all the cable
companies, and also telcos, cell
companies.. via their online hiring method. Then gets zero reply from all of
em. he has zero work experience in
any of his fields, just loads of education...and lotsa paper work +
references to prove it. I said id help him out if I can
as I still know the right folks in the industry. At least get the paper work
to the right place. I have seen too much
talent walk right out the door. too bad. he was willing to relocate
anywhere..and work any hrs. All he really wanted
was just an interview.
## all these 11,000 folks the local telco hired in the philipines.... all
have a min of 4 years university. They do everything
from processing orders for various telcos... to fielding calls for visa /MC
and amex. Huge call centers. A huge
chunk of our engineering depts have now gone to india. Our engineers were
really pissed off with that fiasco. They
came here from india..and sit beside our engineers.... who show em step by
step how to do the work, process an
eng request for XXX etc. Then 6 months later, the same indian fellow is now
doing their job. Local eng retires,
and not replaced. But no way in hell can anybody here in NA even begin to
compete with cheap ( highly educated)
folks on the other side of the planet. gates was paying indian software
types like $5K per year..which is a kings ransom
over there. Philipinos make abt $15- 20 per day ..and none of em get any
benefits..or very minimal.
## In india, they process one helluva lot of income tax forms for the IRS in
the usa. that plus a lot of other stuff. Now
state govts are farming out work to em. When the internet started.. we all
predicted... electronic sweat shops in 20 years,
and we were correct. You can now email the MRI / CT scan to some Dr in
India..who will analyze it for u..then email back the
results. U got no idea whats coming down the pipe in the next 2-5 years.
Local telco is now installing fiber directly into all homes.
The bandwidth is insane. 1500 gig bi directional on one strand is the norm
these days..which is then shared by just 12 x customers.
Homes get one strand..and business gets 3 strands. Each strand is divided
into 12..via a prism into 12 channels. One channel
per home...and 3 x channels for most business customers. banks and financial
institutions, govt offices etc, get a lot more... +
redundant strands. 4k video and high res mri /ct etc, is all geared up to
process vast amounts of data.... on the other side of the planet.
Jim VE7RF
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