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Re: [TowerTalk] torque arms or not?

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] torque arms or not?
From: Tom_N2SR via TowerTalk <towertalk@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Tom_N2SR <tom_n2sr@yahoo.com>
Date: Mon, 9 Jan 2017 16:51:54 +0000 (UTC)
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I think Steve posted awhile back regarding torque arms, as someone also posted, 
that they really don't do much for the tower, but make the climber(s) feel a 
bit safer.  

However, the torque arms also keep the guy wires away from the tower, so that 
during additional tower section raising, antenna raising (or lowering), or 
other tower work, the guy wires could less likely be damaged from an 
inadvertent dropping of a tool or other object.  
I have torque arms (or bars, as some call them) on both guy levels.  Only 
because they came with the guying assemblies (the assembly that wraps around 
the tower and provides a place to attach the guy wire).  

Tom, N2SR

      From: Patrick Greenlee <patrick_g@windstream.net>
 To: towertalk@contesting.com 
 Sent: Monday, January 9, 2017 11:02 AM
 Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] torque arms or not?
   
I have never seen a tower with torque arms.  There, I confess. But it 
seems to me relatively long and rigid arms secured against pivoting at 
the tower end and connected at the other ( non tower end) to the guys 
would provide significant resistance to tower twist around the central 
vertical axis. If reduction of tower twist were an extremely important 
goal running guys at right angles (in both directions) to the outboard 
ends of the torque arms should virtually eliminate twisting.  A 
complication for sure but short of some cost effective sky hooks how 
else could you limit twist so effectively?

Patrick        Nj5G


On 1/9/2017 9:07 AM, Keith Dutson wrote:
> That works for me!  Thanks Jim.
>
> 73, Keith NM5G
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> <snip>
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> I think the take home here is that "more guys make it more rigid, which
> reduces the pucker factor when climbing" is the dominant effect.
> <snip>
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