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Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning

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Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning
From: "Roger (K8RI) on TT" <K8RI-on-TowerTalk@tm.net>
Date: Thu, 29 Jun 2017 00:17:29 -0400
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GENERALLY: When the spalling (100# chunks?)is on top, or above the surface, it is due to moisture / water in the concrete. In the case shown in the first link, that appears to be the case exacerbated by poor grounding. Inadequate and poor installation. Rerod cage too near the surface and not connected to the tower, or not sufficiently connected. Water can get into the concrete a number of ways

It's been my experience, Hams are unlikely to need guy anchor grounding as typical practice is to break up the guys with insulators, or use non conductive guys and the towers are connected to the rerod cages. Even a ring of 3 ground rods should be considered the absolute minimum unless you have a substantial UFER ground depending on soil conditions.

I don't have photos, but the last commercial tower I worked on used one inch steel rope consisting of many fine strands. With these properly tensioned, you could feel no vibration on calm or windy days. The did oscillate though. Hit one with a wrench and the very clear tone was way above middle C. That meant there was some substantial tension on those cables.

Quite a few times I saw that tower take hits with the lightning jumping of the guys to ground 50 feet or more

73,  Roger (K8RI)


On 6/28/2017 Wednesday 9:29 PM, Gene Smar wrote:
TT:
There are lots of other examples and case studies of uber-lightning and
grounding installations linked from the main page of that site:
https://www.copper.org/ .  Click the Applications tab, then, under
Electrical, click Power Quality.  You also can find a series of articles on
the (copper) Statue of Liberty under Education.  Fascinating site.

73 de
Gene Smar  AD3F


-----Original Message-----
From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Shawn
Donley
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 9:05 PM
To: towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Lightning

Here's one documented case of lightning damage to concrete.  I had posted it
before but here's a repeat.


https://www.copper.org/applications/electrical/pq/casestudy/a6137/a6137.html


In this case a concrete guy anchor was damaged. But looking at the pictures,
this might have been caused by moisture entry due to surface cracking with
the lightning strike just finishing it off as the current pulse turned the
moisture into steam. Hard to say. I think the real question is if a
lightning strike can cause internal damage to a tower concrete foundation
that you can not easily detect.


N3AE
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