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Re: [TowerTalk] Cut off extra 7 ft of mast or leave it?

To: "'David Winarsky'" <david@winarsky.com>, "'Dick Williams'" <richardk8ztt@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cut off extra 7 ft of mast or leave it?
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@largeriver.net>
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 2020 12:39:25 -0600
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I don't think that I would put a 20 foot mast on top of a crank up tower!
What type of mast do you plan to use? Aluminum, Molly etc?

I have that same tower and it would worry me with that high of a mast 
especially when tilting it over. A lot of stress there.

73
Gary  K4FMX 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On 
> Behalf Of David Winarsky
> Sent: Monday, November 23, 2020 8:18 AM
> To: Dick Williams
> Cc: towertalk@contesting com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cut off extra 7 ft of mast or leave it?
> 
> Thanks everyone for all the great comments and advice!  It 
> sounds like a lot of people have a similar setup and are 
> actually utilizing the extra space space.  I wasn’t sure the 
> extra length of mast would be stable enough to hold another 
> antenna on its own, but based on this thread I’ll plan to put 
> a 3 feet of the mast in the tower (with the rotator plate 3 
> ft down as Karl advised), put the Steppir a few feet above 
> the top of the tower, and the JK40 all the way at the top. 
> 
> By the way, one additional question I forgot to ask— I had 
> been advised to rotate the JK40 90 degrees from the Steppir 
> to avoid interaction between the two antennas.  Do you folks 
> advise the same?
> 
> Thanks again,
> David K6ZD
> 
> > On Nov 22, 2020, at 21:51, Dick Williams 
> <richardk8ztt@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > Dave,
> > 
> > If you are not planning on stacking another antenna on the 
> tower, why not move the 40M dipole up higher and utilize the 
> additional 7 ft to get the 40M rotatable dipole a bit higher 
> up?  That tower seems to have similar specs to my old US 
> Tower HDX-54 that I have had up close to 20 years.  Like 
> yourself, I have a 20 ft mast and the rotor (Tailtwister) is 
> mounted in the tower with 3 or so feet of mast in the tower.  
> I use the tower to hold two Force 12 Magnum antennas.  One is 
> a 7 element 12 M beam about 1 ft above the top of the tower, 
> and the other is an 8 element 10 M beam about 3 ft from the 
> top of the mast (the U Bolt and saddle that holds the truss 
> cable for the 10M beam is at the top of the mast).  I live on 
> top of a hill, and have had winds in excess of 70 MPH on more 
> than one occasion. 
> > 
> > Have fun erecting the tower.  For the first time since I 
> erect it, I had to do some maintenance last week, and it was 
> sure nice to be able to lower it down!
> > 
> > Dick, K8ZTT
> > 
> >> On Sun, Nov 22, 2020 at 9:38 PM Gary K9GS 
> <k9gs@gjschwartz.com> wrote:
> >> I'd have to study this a bit more but why not put a 3 ele 
> 6m beam at the top and stack with the DB11 on 6m?73,Gary K9GS
> >> -------- Original message --------From: Raymond Benny 
> <rayn6vr@gmail.com> Date: 11/22/20  10:23 PM  (GMT-06:00) To: 
> wesattaway@bellsouth.net Cc: Tower Talk 
> <TowerTalk@contesting.com>, David Winarsky 
> <david@winarsky.com> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] Cut off extra 7 
> ft of mast or leave it? You paid big bucks for a good mast. 
> 7ft sticking up won't hurt a thing.Besides, you may want to 
> add another antenna in the future.Ray,N6VR/W7YAOn Sun, Nov 
> 22, 2020, 7:56 PM Wes Attaway <wesattaway@bellsouth.net> 
> wrote:> I would leave it in place because someday you might 
> want to put a vertical> up there.>>      
> ----------------------------------->       Wes Attaway 
> (N5WA)> (318) 393-3289 - Shreveport, LA> Computer/Cellphone 
> Forensics>       AttawayForensics.com>      
> -----------------------------------> -----Original 
> Message-----> From: TowerTalk 
> [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of> 
> David> Winarsky> Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2020 8:39 PM> To: 
> TowerTalk@contesting.com> Subject: [TowerTalk] Cut off extra 
> 7 ft of mast or leave it?>> I'm putting up my first tower, a 
> LM-354HDSP with a Steppir DB11 and a JK 40> meter horizontal 
> dipole, both in the same mast. I have a 20 ft 2 in OD mast> 
> from Tashjian and am wondering whether I should cut off the 
> unused length> or> leave it?>> Karl at Tashjian suggested I 
> install the rotator plate 3 ft below the top> of> the tower 
> and the DB11 2 ft above the top, with the JK40 8 ft above 
> that> (10> ft from the top of the tower). That will leave 7 
> ft of the mast unused.>> Do you folks recommend I leave the 
> extra 7ft of the mast in place or cut it> off?>> Appreciate 
> the input and any other comments or suggestions on my plan.>> 
> 73,> David K6ZD> 
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