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Re: [TowerTalk] ALIGNING ANTENNA

To: "'Dave - W3NP'" <w3np@atlanticbb.net>, <towertalk@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] ALIGNING ANTENNA
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@largeriver.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 2021 14:39:00 -0600
List-post: <mailto:towertalk@contesting.com>
But as Joe said, that rotor has only 360 degrees of rotation. You can make the 
controller look right but you will not be able to make that last 30 degree, or 
whatever it is off, as the rotor will only go so far regardless of the 
controller. It must be corrected mechanically at the mast.

73
Gary K4FMX  

> -----Original Message-----
> From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] On 
> Behalf Of Dave - W3NP
> Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 2:21 PM
> To: towertalk@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] ALIGNING ANTENNA
> 
> It absolutely will....Just go to the first menu option called 
> "calibrate" and set the Green Heron to read the position that 
> you antenna is currently at. No need to do anything outside 
> except verify the actual antenna heading. I like to use 
> Polaris (the north star) here. 
> But most smartphones can run a free compass app set for "true 
> north" not magnetic north which is a 10 degree difference here.
> 
> 73, Dave - W3NP
> 
> 
> On 1/1/2021 2:57 PM, Dale M. Schwartz wrote:
> > I have a Green Heren controller on order. Will that make 
> any difference?
> >                    Dale/K4ROZ
> >
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> > On Jan 1, 2021, at 2:11 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV 
> <lists@subich.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 2021-01-01 1:53 PM, Les Brown wrote:
> >
> >>      I don't understand why you think it isn't right.
> > Simply put, the Hy-Gain controller does not have a correction for 
> > magnetic north and the Hy-Gain rotators have only 360 
> degree rotation.
> >
> > If the antenna is 30 degrees off alignment and one adjusts 
> the "north"
> > position using the "calibrate" pot, the heading will be correct at 
> > north but will be off by a variable amount in the rest of 
> the range - 
> > depending on whether the 30 degrees is clockwise or counter 
> clockwise 
> > the indicator will show "south" (assuming the typical north centered
> > scale) when the rotator is at 210 degrees (CCW limit) and 
> "south" for 
> > 180 to 210 degrees (CW limit) or "south" for 150 (CCW limit) to 180 
> > and "south" at 150 (CW limit).
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >    ... Joe, W4TV
> >
> >
> > On 2021-01-01 1:53 PM, Les Brown wrote:
> > John,
> >     I don't understand why you think it isn't right. The 
> magnetic north offset is a fixed offset for a given location. 
> If your correct offset is let's say 10 degrees and you have a 
> misaligned antenna that is another 20 degrees off in the same 
> direction, why not just set the parameter to 30 degrees and 
> not worry about having to physically realign the mast? The 
> only concern I can see is if you don't have enough of a coax 
> loop for the extra rotation.
> > 73, Les VE3NNT
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: JOHN OWENS [mailto:ham38john@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 1:04 PM
> > To: Les Brown <lesbrown@sympatico.ca>; Dale M. Schwartz 
> > <dale@immlawfirm.com>; towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] ALIGNING ANTENNA I kinda don't 
> think that is 
> > right. Besides, the offset btwn mag and true is unique to each 
> > location. -  John Owens -  N7TK On 01/01/2021 9:42 AM Les 
> Brown <lesbrown@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> >
> >   Dale,
> >     Most rotor controllers have an offset for true north vs 
> magnetic north. Why don't you just adjust this parameter?
> > 73, Les VE3NNT
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TowerTalk [mailto:towertalk-bounces@contesting.com] 
> On Behalf Of 
> > Dale M. Schwartz
> > Sent: Friday, January 01, 2021 12:22 PM
> > To: towertalk@contesting.com
> > Subject: [TowerTalk] ALIGNING ANTENNA
> >
> > I just replaced my rotor (with a HAM-IV) on the bottom of 
> my US Tower 55’ flagpole with a SteppIR on top. The old rotor 
> was off the tower for a few weeks and I suspect the wind blew 
> the beam a little.
> >      Now my bearings are about 30-40 degrees off. So when 
> my controller says I am pointed due North, the beam is 
> actually pointed NNW.
> >      I know we could lower the tower and repoint the beam. 
> But I’m looking for suggestions on how to reorient the 
> antenna from the ground.
> >       Any thoughts would be appreciated.
> >       HAPPY NEW YEAR!
> >                   Dale/K4ROZ
> >
> >
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