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Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again

To: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca>,"Steve Root" <steve.root@culligan4water.com>,"Cq-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>,"Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again
From: "Bob Wruble" <w7gg@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2004 21:09:36 -0800
List-post: <mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com>
fwiw, w7gg had 199 ss fone q's on10m this year ..... when it's open that
number goes over 1000!  10m nfg on sunday this year but that's to be
expected at this time of the cycle ....
de w7gg


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Kelly Taylor" <ve4xt@mb.sympatico.ca>
To: "Steve Root" <steve.root@culligan4water.com>; "Cq-Contest"
<cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again


> I second Steve's analysis of band-by-band conditions.
>
> Even excluding WP3R, stations in southern latitudes had extreme advantages
> in 10 meters that northern folk simply didn't have.
>
> I often scanned 10 as I was running, and found lots of guys in the south
> running with really good rates for a long time working stations we
couldn't
> hear. Even W7GG had 299 Qs on 10, vs. my 6, VE4GV's zero and similarly
> sub-20 Q rates by many in the midwest.
>
> The work-once-period rule serves as a bit of a geographic equalizer,
> particularly during waning sunspot years. Turning SS into a once-per-band
> contest may appeal to southerners, but it would decimate participation
among
> northerners. If you want to kiss a sweep goodbye forever, this is a good
way
> to do it.
>
> I'm all for making a change to boost participation, but I think this one
> isn't it. You'd trade increased participation by some for less by others.
> Not good.
>
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Root" <steve.root@culligan4water.com>
> To: "Cq-Contest" <cq-contest@contesting.com>; "Pete Smith"
> <n4zr@contesting.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 8:30 AM
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again
>
>
> > Pete,
> >
> > I think that it's a great idea for all of us to consider ways to
encourage
> > contest activity or make needed improvements.  At the same time, we need
> to
> > be careful about how those changes would affect all of the players.
> >
> > SS is pretty special the way it is right now.  Especially for a lot of
us
> > who live in the Northern Latitudes.  You wouldn't believe how awful 10
> > meters (and frequently 15 meters) can be up here.  In an SS 10 meters is
> > pretty much worthless.  For example, in last year's CW SS  I made 3% of
my
> > QSO's on 10 meters.  And that's with an efficient SAO2R setup. Strategy
> > comes in to play in figuring out how to find the people you're missing
on
> 10
> > meters on other bands.  If you can do that, then you can be somewhat
> > competitive.  That's part of SS that makes it a great contest.
> >
> > Good luck to everybody this weekend!
> >
> > 73 Steve K0SR
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
> > To: "Richard Zalewski" <w7zr@citlink.net>; "Cq-Contest"
> > <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 12:19 PM
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Here we go again
> >
> >
> > > While we're at it, let's get serious about revising this contest to
> > > stimulate more activity.  Make mults one per band rather than
> > > overall.  Wouldn't the first 5-band or 6-band sweep be something?
Allow
> > > one QSO per station per band, and eliminate the Sunday doldrums.
> > >
> > > To my mind, this would make virtually the perfect contest -- an
exchange
> > > with content that *must* be copied, retaining potential for modest
> > stations
> > > to make lots of contacts and rack up respectable scores, and 24 hours
> > > on-time.  Having more mults and Qs available would make the off-time
> > > decision into a critical strategic choice rather than deciding which 6
> > > hours will be the worst.
> > >
> > > In the past, suggestions of this sort were met with the complaint,
> "That'd
> > > be just another NAQP."  My response is "What's wrong with that,"
> > > particularly if it attracts SS-plus levels of participation instead of
> the
> > > few hundred regulars who get involved in NAQPs.
> > >
> > > 73, Pete N4ZR
> > >
> > > At 07:18 PM 11/22/2004, Richard Zalewski wrote:
> > >
> > > >This is part of my post from Sweepstakes.
> > > >
> > > >When are we going to wake up and sit at
> > > >the table and restructure the operating classes of not only this
> contest
> > but
> > > >all.  If we are going to have classes and not just a free for all
then
> > SO2R
> > > >needs to be dealt with so that the classes have some meaning.  And
> while
> > > >we are
> > > >at it Packet is here for the foreseeable future so deal with it also.
> > > >
> > > >Let the fun begin!!
> > > >
> > > >Dick W7ZR
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