This demonization of SO2R as the reason one-radio ops don't win is really
quite amusing.
I would argue that before you can expect any sort of score improvement due
to SO2R, you must first master contesting with one radio. And then get ready
for your scores to be decimated when you switch to SO2R.
If you aren't fully clicking with one radio, then the fact you have one
radio and he has two is NOT why he beat you.
73, Kelly
Ve4xt
-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Joe Subich, W4TV
Sent: January-27-08 6:05 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Cc: 'Dennis Vernacchia'; 'Paul E. Dorey'; 'Tom Haavisto';
k-zero-hb@earthlink.net; 'Lee Buller'
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> Aha...but most Pole Vaulters are VO1P (Vaults ONLY w/ 1
> Pole). Your analogy doesn't quite fit... we all use
> different types of poles (radios) just that some of us
> use only ONE.
Not true at all ... go to a professional (or Olympic class)
track and field meet. You will find that most pole vaulters
have between 10 and 15 poles of different lengths and stiffness.
They may use a different pole for each jump depending on wind,
temperature, height of the bar, etc.
73,
... Joe, W4TV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
> [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Paul E. Dorey
> Sent: Sunday, January 27, 2008 6:20 PM
> To: 'Joe Subich, W4TV'; k-zero-hb@earthlink.net; 'Dennis
> Vernacchia'; 'Lee Buller'
> Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
>
>
> Aha...but most Pole Vaulters are VO1P (Vaults ONLY w/ 1
> Pole). Your analogy
> doesn't quite fit... we all use different types of poles
> (radios) just that
> some of us use only ONE.
>
> Now I don't care if you guys do SOGazillianR.... it just
> should not be the
> same class as someone operating with one radio...go to your
> own class and
> then complain because you can't beat a mega station or something.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joe Subich, W4TV [mailto:w4tv@subich.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 18:41
> To: k-zero-hb@earthlink.net; 'Paul E. Dorey'; 'Dennis
> Vernacchia'; 'Lee
> Buller'
> Cc: 'Tom Haavisto'; cq-contest@contesting.com
> Subject: RE: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
>
>
> Since when did you join Dianna Moon Gompers' staff?
>
> While calling SO1R the lazy man's contesting may be hyperbolic,
> the constant attack on those who can and do use SO2R techniques
> are nothing more than mantra of the Handicapper General.
>
> K5TR put it better than I did ... there are a series of things that
> any competitor can do, including antennas, training and practice.
> However, when you have done all that adding a second radio can add
> incrementally to the final score. Think of the selection and use
> of SO2R in the way a pole-vaulter selects a pole ... too short a
> pole will limit the vaulter's maximum height but a pole too long
> for the vaulter's ability (training/practice) will be difficult
> to control and prevent the vaulter from reaching his/her full
> potential.
>
> With the second radio, a properly trained (practiced) operator
> can search for incremental multipliers or spot short term/unexpected
> band openings, etc. However, if the operator does not use the
> second radio properly - or expects it to be a "magic bullet" that
> can be used without practice, the second radio becomes a distraction
> just like a pole vaulter with a too tall pole.
>
> Still, if a serious competitor is not using SO2R or attempting to
> develop the skill to use SO2R, he is limiting his potential just
> as surely as if he cannot or will not us an antenna other than a
> multiband vertical or if a pole vaulter competes with a pole shorter
> than that of his competitors or if a boxer does not do his
> "road work"
> on a consistent basis. All of those are "lazy" behaviors in failing
> to do the work necessary to achieve the maximum results.
>
> Rather than limit just one aspect of the competition, provide an
> entry or basic entry class with no advantages ... limit competitors
> to one transceiver, no packet, no amplifier and antennas no higher
> than 50 feet (or 30 feet) and antennas limited to no more than .5
> wavelength of total conductor. Such a category would provide an
> opportunity for those in antenna restricted areas and those who do
> not want to (or cannot) enter the "arms race" of ever bigger antennas,
> amplifiers and multiple radios.
>
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: K-ZERO-HB [mailto:k-zero-hb@earthlink.net]
> > Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 6:01 PM
> > To: W4TV Joe Subich; Paul E. Dorey; Dennis Vernacchia; Lee Buller
> > Cc: Tom Haavisto; cq-contest@contesting.com
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SO2R
> >
> >
> > What a sanctimonious jerk.
> >
> > 72.5, de Hans, K0HB/W7
> >
> >
> > > [Original Message]
> > > From: Joe Subich, W4TV <w4tv@subich.com>
> > >
> > > SO1R is the lazy person's contesting ... it is contesting with
> > > one hand tied behind one's back, listening with one ear and
> > > entering with half a mind.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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