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Re: [CQ-Contest] Rising IQ This Year

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rising IQ This Year
From: Mark Bailey <kd4d@comcast.net>
Date: Fri, 05 Dec 2008 18:05:09 -0500
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When I'm lucky enough to have this problem, I do it with an R or ROGER
like this:

me:  K1TTT 5n 5
K1TTT:  5n 5
me:  R K1AR 5n 5
K1AR:  5n 5
me:  TU KD4D

Or, on SSB, Roger.  And I use "Thanks" for TU.

If I have a raging pileup, they'll learn when I say ROGER or send
R that I'm going to call someone else.  I like that better than
using "TU" or THANKS whether or not sending my callsign.  I think
QRZ is a waste of time since it provides no information.

73,

Mark, KD4D



ve4xt@mts.net wrote:
> Kelly is right: there should be some ack to TTT before moving to K1AR.
> The point was to illustrate moving on to the next guy w/o opening up a 
> general QRZ, since that's what 
> the thread is about, not necessarily illustrating the absolute correct 
> procedure for doing so.
> 
> 73, kelly
> ve4xt
>> From: "Kelly Jones" <kjones@virtualcohesion.com>
>> Date: 2008/12/05 Fri AM 11:27:30 CST
>> To: <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Rising IQ This Year
>>
>> I've been watching this thread with interest and I think Kelly (VE4XT) hit
>> it on the head.  While I'm more of a Dxer than contester, being on "the
>> other side" is worthy of comment.
>>
>> Many times having a huge pileup slows the Q rate way down.  I've found that
>> NOT giving my call after every Q tends to thin out the pile thus increasing
>> my rate.  And I can certainly tell when I've been spotted.  If I am not
>> giving my call after every Q, I do make it a point to drop it in after every
>> 5 or so Qs, however.
>>
>> The one thing I will take issue with, however, is Kelly's illustration of
>> the QSO below.  Kelly says:
>>  
>>> Also, I don't see anything wrong with the following:
>>>
>>> pileup: xadapug%&(*&D   K1TTT    (*&)%&^$%&DLHDI&^*(%^(*&#@@  
>>>   K1AR   &)&)^&^()*&^
>>> me: k1ttt 599 8
>>> k1ttt: 599 5
>>> me: k1ar 599 8
>>> k1ar: 599 5
>>> me: tu 6y1v
>> I see a HUGE problem with the above.  By not providing a TU, QRZ, Thanks, or
>> *something* between the K1TTT and K1AR QSOs, you've just indicated to the
>> pileup to call and call and call and that if I can get my call in on top of
>> some other chump, you'll take me.  Bad idea.
>>
>> The other end has to control the pileup or his rate will suffer.  Not
>> signing your call after every Q is one method of doing this, but PLEASE
>> don't take calls without first indicating it's ok to call.
>>
>> My 2 cents -
>> Kelly - N0VD
>>
>>
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