I think Dave, Tor et al have raised an interesting issue. There are
really 3 cases here:
1. local CW Skimmer in blind mode - signals are not decoded, and so
Skimmer doesn't know which signals are runners, and which are S&P. In
this case, it is simply a very good band-scope, well-integrated with
your transceiver(s).
2. A local Skimmer in decoding mode, telnetting spots to software (such
as N1MM Logger) that is set up in "blind mode" to discard the callsign
and substitute a marker on a bandmap. The Skimmer's machine
intelligence would be deciding which were runners, and discarding the
rest. This would potentially be a big advantage for S&P rate, if you
knew in advance which signals were runners, and could jump from one to
the next with a keystroke or two. Such operation should be classed as
Assisted.
3. A remote Skimmer (or the RBN), with software as above. I'm not sure
how much advantage the "remoteness" would confer, beyond engineering
ease, but I think it would be still be illegal for non-Assisted
stations, for the reason in 2 above. If you are going to operate
Assisted, why not use Skimmer or the RBN with full capabilities?
73, Pete N4ZR
The World Contest Station Database, updated daily at www.conteststations.com
The Reverse Beacon Network at http://reversebeacon.net, blog at
reversebeacon.blogspot.com,
spots at telnet.reversebeacon.net, port 7000
On 10/21/2010 11:53 AM, RT Clay wrote:
>
> --- On Thu, 10/21/10, BobK8IA@aol.com<BobK8IA@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>> From: BobK8IA@aol.com<BobK8IA@aol.com>
>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Blind Mode for N1MM Bandmap
>> To: xdavid@cis-broadband.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
>> Date: Thursday, October 21, 2010, 6:49 AM
>> Dave,
>>
>> > From a "assisted vs unassisted query", why would this
>> be any different than
>> getting info of a stations presence from a bandscope,
>> panadapter etc?
>> You're substituting a blip on a bansdscope vs an asterisk
>> on a bandmap.
>>
>> Granted, with some radios it is easier to change to the
>> proper freq via a
>> bandmap, but not all.
>>
>> Seems perfectly legal for unassisted operation to me.
>>
>>
>>
> Does not seem legal to me with current rules if you take the frequencies from
> a remote source (telnet). Blips on a bandscope are fundamentally different
> from frequencies taken from telnet: For example, with what you suggest, you
> could take DX spots from a skimmer in Europe during a 160m contest. That way
> you would know where the EU DX stations are on the band even before the band
> opened to you in North America. In such a contest that would be a huge
> advantage even if it didn't include callsign information.
>
> On the other, just marking signals on the bandmap from your local receiver
> (with no cw decoding) is fine, I currently do that.
>
> Tor
> N4OGW
>
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