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Re: [CQ-Contest] K4VV in ARRL DX CW

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] K4VV in ARRL DX CW
From: <john@kk9a.com>
Date: Thu, 26 Feb 2015 21:55:56 -0500
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I am not seeing any rule violations. They did not solicit contacts by
emailing or texting, the internet connection was just a long speaker and
keyer wire. If all transmitting and receiving antennas are on the same
property there certainly is no scoring advantage to operating remotely.

John KK9A


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Subject:        [CQ-Contest] K4VV in ARRL DX CW
From:   Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
Date:   Thu, 26 Feb 2015 04:09:47 +0000
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The ARRL Contest Update for February 25 reports that

A team of operators mounted the first totally remote
<http://www.arrl.org/news/no-one-in-the-shack-as-station-logs-4200-contacts-
in-arrl-dx-cw-contest>
  Multioperator Unlimited category effort in last weekend's
  ARRL DX CW contest at the station of K4VV.

It seems to me that the K4VV station was, in effect, a
private repeater, with access restricted to team members.

http://www.arrl.org/general-rules-for-all-arrl-contests

The general rules or ARRL contests state -

3.7.2.1. Stations remotely controlled by radio link may
         use necessary equipment at the control point.

Note:  there is no reference to stations remotely
controlled by internet link.

3.9. Contacts made through repeaters, digipeaters, or
     gateways are not permitted.

3.10. The use of non-Amateur Radio means of communication
      (for example, Internet or telephone) to solicit a
      contact (or contacts) during the contest period is
      not permitted.

It would appear that, for each and every K4VV QSO hosted
on the internet as a result of calling CQ or TEST, the
internet was indeed used to solicit those QSOs.

IMHO, remote contesting, with its absolute dependence
on the internet for each and every QSO, needs to be
identified as such, and needs separate categories for
scoring and listing purposes.  For identification, the
suffixes /IM (internet mobile) or /R (remote) would do
do the job.

73,
Paul EI5DI

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