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Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote op & Who is this guy, really?

To: "Drew Vonada-Smith" <drew@whisperingwoods.org>, <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote op & Who is this guy, really?
From: "Glenn Wyant" <va3dx@sympatico.ca>
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 05:46:39 -0500
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A scientist goes to Bouvet
He is a good friend , who normally lives  1 block
from your house.

He sets up a remote at his home , and operates from Bouvet.

You work him on 160 meters...

So did you work " Bouvet " or a neighbor ?


Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2015 11:02 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Remote op & Who is this guy, really?


Friends,


I had to take this opportunity after the comment about the end of rare sections...


I think all this remote work, trying to help J. etc is interesting and wonderful and I really don't mean to be negative. But...what is the point of a "rare section" if you don't have to be there to operate? Doesn't this in many ways, miss the point of a multiplier?


As an analogous example, what if a DXpedition were to put up an automated station in Bouvet, and operate it from home? Bouvet becomes common. What have we really achieved? HF propagation to Bouvet was never really the point, was it?


I'm not a Luddite, I get the interest, good intentions, and technical achievement in all this. It sounds fun! But as a test to see if I was just narrow-minded or a fuddy-duddy, I ran this remote idea past a few non-hams who know just enough about contesting to understand. The comments I received were:


- That's bogus

- That's cheating

- You guys have lost your way


Can't say I disagree. Food for thought. Not to stop such operations, progress will always move forward, but to try and recognize what it all means and establish limits.


73,

Drew K3PA

-----Original message-----
From:Art Boyars <artboyars@gmail.com>
Sent:Wed 11-04-2015 09:21 am
Subject:[CQ-Contest] Who is this guy, really?
To:CQ-Contest Reflector <cq-contest@contesting.com>;

W1VE said: "Thanks to a lot of work from J and the remote team, Hal, W1NN,
will operate [VY1AAA] SOHP in November SS via remote from his home in Ohio."

OK, so "Hal, W1NN" will operate a NT station from his home in Ohio.

But for the past many contests "Hal" has purportedly operated "W1NN" in
Ohio ... remotely from Japan. (You could look it up.)

Can we believe that "Hal" is really where he says he is, or that the
station is where it claims to be, or even who he says he is?

(In case I'm too subtle, that was a joke.)

And Gerry will be (actually, physically) at K2LE in VT. Could that be
competition for W1SJ?

Are we about to see the end of rare Sections in SS? (Not a joke.)

73, Art K3KU
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