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Re: [CQ-Contest] KU1CW location

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] KU1CW location
From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Jun 2017 15:06:08 +0100
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On 06/06/2017 03:02, N4ZR wrote:
Am I missing something here? So long as there is a control operator physically present (and in control of) the US station, does it make any difference whether any person operating the station (under the control operator's oversight) even has a license at all, whether remote or on the premises??

N4ZR ignores the fact that "remote control" means
exactly that - the station is under the control of
the remote operator.

The question is ingenious - N4ZR knows very well
that it is common practice for such stations to
be unattended.

73,
Paul EI5DI




73, Pete N4ZR
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On 6/5/2017 2:00 PM, Peter Bowyer wrote:
I found the quote I was referring to :

"For the past two days I have been corresponding my a gentleman called
  Scot Stone,  Deputy Chief, Mobility Division, Wireless
Telecommunications Bureau, The FCC

and have asked him several questions about what is allowed and what is
not allowed in the United States of America with amateur licensing.
I did not quote any specifics, but merely asked policy and licensing
questions.
I did this to be clear in my head what is allowed and what is illegal
in the USA.   Many people have different view on things and like life,
many people push the boundaries of things and if they get away with it
on sufficient occasions, then (to them) it become acceptable practise.
   My questions to the FCC did not cover every eventuality or
possibility but merely an outline of the current situation.
This morning I got a final message that (and I cut copy and paste so
as to get the words correctly)


"Reciprocal authority does not authorize remote control, even when you
are in the United States.  If you visit the United States, you can
operate where you are under your CEPT license, but not remotely.
Remote control of a transmitter located in the United States requires
a license from the FCC, regardless of where you are located.

You need a USA license in order to remotely operate a transmitter in
the United States.

The FCC does not grant reciprocal licenses anymore.  Instead, we grant
reciprocal authority to licensees  from administrations with which the
United States has a bilateral or multilateral agreement (such as
CEPT), but this authority applies only to stations under the foreign
licensee's physical control.

So there you have it from the horse's mouth - MY reading of the above
simply means that

(1)   I cannot operate a remote station in the USA from Scotland as
(it is not under my physical control) and I do not have a USA licence
and

(2)   If I visit the USA even under CEPT, I may operate my own station
or the station of my host, but I may not operate another station
within the USA by remote control, unless I have a licence from the
FCC!
"

So not a direct, authoritative ruling but perhaps good enough? Note
that it also states that remote operation isn't included in CEPT
privileges *at all*, even if you're in-country.

Peter G4MJS

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