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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW
From: Mike Ritz <w7vo@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 15:37:12 +0000 (UTC)
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I am all for the "everybody works everybody" rule that the CQWW RTTY has, 
especially since we run into so many US people in the contest that don't know 
that you can only work DX, and will answer you when you are running. This is a 
contact that you have to make to be able to move on, and is zero points. I was 
reminded of how fun the RTTY contest was last weekend when I could sit some new 
hams down in the shack and let them have at it, and everybody they worked was 
worth at least one point. 

Our local DX club here in the Pacific NW has a year long "contest within a 
contest" going on with several other NW based clubs, including a VE based DX 
club. Every US station the VE club works in the CQWW Phone and CW are worth 
points, every US station we work are zeros. There are a lot more US stations on 
than VEs, which really skews the results. The CQWW RTTY rules evens up the 
playing field somewhat, as they still get 2 points per US QSO, but at least we 
get one point rather than zero. 

That said, rules are rules, and the idea is to have as much fun as possible 
within the rules! 

73; 
Mike 
W7VO 





----- Original Message -----

From: "John Geiger" <af5cc2@gmail.com> 
To: "Ria Jairam" <rjairam@gmail.com> 
Cc: sawyered@earthlink.net, "CQ-Contest Reflector" <cq-contest@contesting.com> 
Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2017 7:18:54 PM 
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQWW 

Some stations, like those in the US, can get the zone multipliers by 
working other countries. I can get zones 3, 4 and 5 by working Canada. I 
don't have to work a station in my country to get them, so if we eliminated 
same country QSOs, I would lose 1 mult-the US country multiplier. 

However, some other amateurs wouldn't be so fortunate. If I am in Asiatic 
Russia and in Zone 17, and I cannot work other stations in my country, 
there is no way for me to get zones 18 and 19 as multipliers. That rule 
then costs me 3 multipliers per band-1 country multiplier and 2 zone 
multipliers. 

73 John AF5CC 

On Tue, Sep 26, 2017 at 10:55 AM, Ria Jairam <rjairam@gmail.com> wrote: 

> If that is the case then we shouldn't be able to contact US stations 
> for the country and zone mult. 
> 
> I find this to be an anomaly for two reasons: 
> 
> 1. You try to contact US stations to get the zone and country mult and 
> some of them get angry that you're taking away precious op time from 
> them. 
> 
> 2. You're running a pileup and a bunch of US stations are calling you 
> trying for the country and zone mult and some out of plain ignorance, 
> they hear a contest is on and then work everyone they can hear. The 
> former is no big deal. The latter is a problem because you don't know 
> if to ignore them. 
> 
> The same country zone and country mult should either be eliminated OR 
> credit for stateside QSOs would be welcome. The former will have the 
> least impact in terms of scores. The latter would bring a shift and 
> would likely make some stations more competitive (I can see the 
> central states benefitting more). 
> 
> The game has and can always evolve. Strategy will have to change too, 
> nothing wrong with that. 
> 
> 73 
> Ria, N2RJ 
> 
> On Mon, Sep 25, 2017 at 8:22 PM, Ed Sawyer <sawyered@earthlink.net> wrote: 
> > Its actually called the CQ World Wide DX Contest. The reason that 
> domestic 
> > contacts do not count for points should be quite clear based on the 
> actual 
> > name of the contest. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I believe the rules were amended for the RTTY contest because there was 
> > initially so little participation that it needed an enhancement to be 
> > viable. If its now become much more popular, the CQ WW DX RTTY should 
> > actually consider adopting the traditional rules. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Find a contest that suits your style and location and enjoy. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 73 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Ed N1UR 
> > 
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