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Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle

To: "n4py3@earthlink.net" <n4py3@earthlink.net>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Reasons to buy an OM7 instead of an Eagle
From: "R. Eric Sluder via TenTec" <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: "R. Eric Sluder" <resluder@yahoo.com>, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Wed, 9 Jul 2014 23:51:49 -0400
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I run the radio with 50% rf gain.

Eric
W9WLW


Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 9, 2014, at 10:59 PM, Carl Moreschi <n4py3@earthlink.net> wrote:
> 
> That sounds like the RF gain was just set too high in the Omni VII.  I have 
> both radios here and I like the Omni VII much better.  The Omni VII is more 
> convenient to use the controls.  It's also more sensitive for hearing weak 
> signals on 6 meters.
> 
> Carl Moreschi N4PY
> 58 Hogwood Rd
> Louisburg, NC 27549
> www.n4py.com
> 
>> On 7/9/2014 10:49 PM, R. Eric Sluder via TenTec wrote:
>> Nice response Rick.
>> 
>> Having both radios I'll say the OM7 receiver isn't capable of dealing with 
>> interference like the Eagle can do.  Broadcast band interference on 160 
>> meters is a good example.  Atmospheric noise (including lightning pulses) 
>> are stronger in my OM7 verses the Eagle.  It maybe because the Eagle is a 
>> down converted receiver with a less broad front end whereas the OM7 has a 
>> broader front end (20 Khz I believe) and is up converted, plus the DSP isn't 
>> of the same vintage of the Eagle (just guessing).
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Eric
>> W9WLW
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Jul 9, 2014, at 5:10 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP"<Rick@DJ0IP.de>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> I was just asked off list for reasons to warrant spending the extra bread on
>>> an OM7 instead of an Eagle.
>>> Ha!  I had to bite my tongue to keep from saying "none, there aren't any!"
>>> (hi)
>>> 
>>> There are of course 2 or 3 minor reasons and I've created my list below.
>>> Perhaps someone else more familiar with the OM7 than I am can think of other
>>> reasons that I have forgotten.
>>> Grateful to any additional tips.
>>> 
>>> (and to the OM who asked me this question, if you do not subscribe to the
>>> tentec group at contesting.com, send me another email and I will forward you
>>> any replies we get).
>>> ==========================================================
>>> 
>>> Hi OM, (name withheld)
>>> 
>>> You do realize of course that you have posed that question to a man in love
>>> with his Eagle!  (hi)
>>> OK, but I will try and be objective on this.
>>> 
>>> The Eagle's better receiver is really only noticeable in BIG contests where
>>> a good operator is willing to dive into the middle of the heaviest pile-up
>>> on the band to work whatever DX multiplier is under all the rumble.  Apart
>>> from that, there is not a lot of difference in the two receivers.  However
>>> when the going gets tough, the Eagle will outshine the Omni 7.
>>> 
>>> I'll start with the only other negative of the OM7 over the Eagle: it has
>>> only one knob for AF and RF gain.  Not the end of the world but separate
>>> knobs would have been better.
>>> 
>>> And of course if you go backpacking, I'd rather carry an Eagle!  (hi)
>>> Same applies for mobile operations.
>>> 
>>> Now here is my short list of features the OM7 has which the Eagle does not:
>>> 
>>> . A larger read out, including an S-Meter that you can actually see and read
>>> 
>>> . Better interfacing to old amplifiers (or new Ameritron amplifiers) in CW
>>> mode.  The OM7 has adjustable hang delay on the tail end of the signal.  The
>>> Eagle does not have this feature and if you have one of these amps, you
>>> absolutely need it.  With the Eagle, you must purchase the Model 318 Amp
>>> Keyer for a hundred bucks.
>>> 
>>> . Interfacing to Ten-Tec full QSK amplifiers (dual-cable keying).  The Eagle
>>> does not have this.  If you don't have a full QSK linear with this keying
>>> loop circuitry, it doesn't matter.
>>> 
>>> . A band scope (though it's not the greatest)
>>> 
>>> . Larger heat sink on the back side for cooling the final transistors.  You
>>> really do not need a fan unless you are running RTTY.  The Eagle doesn't
>>> have this so it must rely on a fan. It is not terribly loud but it is
>>> audible.
>>> 
>>> . Direct frequency entry keypad
>>> 
>>> . Curtis mode A and B keying.  It's fixed on the Eagle, but I have no idea
>>> which one.  Somehow I never paid any attention to that stuff.  I just key
>>> whatever they throw at me and it somehow seems to always work.
>>> 
>>> . Two spare RCA phono plugs AND an internal provision to connect two coax
>>> cables to these to be used as connection for a pre-selector or noise
>>> cancelor.
>>> 
>>> . A serial port.
>>> 
>>> . Connection for the POD (the remote VFO knob).  I sometimes miss this on my
>>> Eagle.
>>> 
>>> . 2 antenna jacks
>>> 
>>> . Ethernet connection
>>> 
>>> . AUX RX (antenna) - an input for a receive-only antenna (uses one of the
>>> two ANT connections)
>>> 
>>> . Adjustable bandwidth on SSB
>>> 
>>> . Adjustable RX and TX equalizers
>>> 
>>> . CTCSS for FM
>>> 
>>> . Adjustable CW (keying) weighting
>>> 
>>> . SPOT (for spotting in CW) - which I personally feel is worthless
>>> 
>>> . Adjustable rise/fall time on CW.  A fancy option but I don't feel it is
>>> necessary.  The Eagle's CW signal is just fine.
>>> 
>>> . FSK X Data (if you are into RTTY)
>>> 
>>> . VFO Speed Shift which basically speeds up the tuning rate by a factor of 4
>>> when you turn the VFO knob real fast.  Many people like this feature a lot.
>>> 
>>> . A very comfortable software menu (probably the very best in the industry)
>>> 
>>> . OmniRig support (very important for many 3rd party software programs)
>>> 
>>> . A dedicated RIT/XIT knob (using the RIT on the Eagle is very clumsy)
>>> 
>>> . And of course REMOTE CONTROL (over the Internet)
>>> 
>>> That's all that comes to mind right now, but keep in mind that I do not own
>>> an OM7 and the last time I even saw or used one was in 2007.  That was 7
>>> years ago. and my old grey cells "ain't what they used to be".
>>> 
>>> 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
>>> (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
>>> 
>>> 
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