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Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future

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Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future
From: "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
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Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2014 14:36:07 +0100
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Barry, a classical user interface will be one of many options.
It will just be in a separate box from the radio.

73 - Rick, DJ0IP
(Nr. Frankfurt am Main)


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From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU
Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2014 1:56 PM
To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
Subject: Re: [TenTec] New Radios in the Future

The hf rig front panel evolved its knobbed interface over a period of nearly
100 years.  It works.  I don't need no steenkin'
smartphone/touchscreen/mouse/whatever modern interface for my radio.  Sure,
let the radio hardware be the latest greatest direct digital sampling, but
keep my user interface classical.

73, Barry N1EU

On Sat, Nov 1, 2014 at 8:33 AM, Phil Sussman <psussman@pactor.com> wrote:

> I do agree with Rick to some extent. The days of building from scratch 
> are quickly waning away. Yes, it still possible to make simple 
> devices, but the degree of complexity of modern items outpaces the 
> ability to create.
>
> Consider fiber optic cable -vs- wire. Over the years there's been a 
> wide variety of wire of various gauges and materials.
> But still wire was something that you could connect, crimp, or solder. 
> Not so with fiber optics - - the diameter is small yet it can conduct 
> for miles with very low loss without the issues of EMP or moisture. If 
> you want to splice it, you need a fusion splicer costing thousands of 
> dollars. If you want to connect it, the tools and equipment required 
> to clean, inspect, and terminate it place that ability beyond the 
> average technician.
>
> Yes, progress moves on. But that does not mean innovation is dead .. 
> it is just different. We still find pleasure in making the seemingly 
> impossible work. I speak of homemade antennas that defy logic. I speak 
> of emergency power systems that can power equipment for days (because 
> of the decreasing power consumption).
>
> Just as LED's have progressed in technology over filament bulbs, so 
> has our ability to innovate progressed. We might not be able to repair 
> a circuit board full of SMD components. We still, however, can take 
> pride in making things work.
>
> Just my thoughts,
>
> 73 de Phil - N8PS
>
>
> -------
>
>
> Quoting Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP <Rick@DJ0IP.de>:
>
>  "there is no better time to be a radio UI homebrewer"
>>
>> Oh, I do not agree with that!
>>
>> I agree it is a good thing that people continue to home brew anything 
>> at all, but I can't see how the thrill of programming a computer 
>> board or radio that they bought can compare with the thrill of 
>> hearing that first radio station when I built my first crystal radio 
>> in 1958, cat-whisker and all.
>>
>> Or with building a 20m CW transceiver from a schematic and magazine 
>> article....
>> Weeks of collecting parts, 40 or 50 hours of soldering it all 
>> together, then finally turning it on and hearing radio signals...
>> Then sitting down in the living room with the little rig running off 
>> of a battery and using a home brew indoor magnetic loop antenna just 
>> 3' in diameter, and working about 20 stations around Europe in a 
>> contest, the first 30 minutes on the air.  This was excitement.
>>
>> I built my first computer in 1977, also from an article in a magazine.
>> Gathered the components and soldered it together, just as I had done 
>> with radios. And I was proud when it worked.  But that didn't match 
>> the thrill of hearing radio stations, at least not for me.
>>
>> I don't want to take anything away from the people participating in 
>> the makers movement, but let's not sell the past too short either.  
>> These makers could still build their own radio today if they wanted 
>> to.  They have other interests.
>>
>> 73
>> Rick, DJ0IP
>>
>> On 10/31/2014 11:54 PM, Neil Martinsen-Burrell wrote:
>>
>>> it is also true that there is
>>> no better time to be a radio UI homebrewer.  There will be a great 
>>> deal of innovation on this front in the next 10 years.  Kudos to 
>>> TenTec for giving us the Rebel and allowing innovation to thrive again.
>>>
>>>
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