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Re: [TowerTalk] permit in hand

To: "BobK8IA@aol.com" <BobK8IA@aol.com>, towertalk@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [TowerTalk] permit in hand
From: "bill rubin" <brubin2010@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2007 18:05:56 -0500
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You missed the point it was not the additional cost that it was excessive,
it was the fact that then need a stamp on each page of the spec.  I have a
PE stamped letter from Rohn that said per design 45G90110, and I walk them
through the spec showing how it was cross referenced.  That was not good
enough for them. They want a stamp on each page.

So why would they need a stamp on each page ?  The letter from Rohn with the
stamp referencing the spec was good enough !  What margin of safety is a by
having a stamp on each page ?  What value is have a PE stamp when the
manufacture is TIA-222 compliant ?

Bill

On 8/31/07, BobK8IA@aol.com <BobK8IA@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
> *Bill;*
> **
> *$400 Excessive? You have to be kidding. That's a joke, right? Good laugh
> for a holiday weekend start. *
> **
> *The PE and land Surveyor both gave you a deal. If the PE had to run any
> kind of thorough structural calculations at all, which he probably did to
> satisfy himself that the canned design was competent for your specific soil
> conditions, you should have been charged over $250. A gift.*
> **
> *PE seal/stamp on each page of the tower specs is not uncommon. I ran into
> that several times in MI. *
> **
> *Similarly, I cant recall any RLS who would come out and do much of any
> surveying for $100. Another gift.*
> **
> *You're right about it being cheaper than legal fees. $400 would have
> bought you an hours time with most of the atty's I know. ;-)*
> **
> *Good luck with your project. *
> **
> **
> *73, Bob K8IA*
> **
> *R.D. Epstein, PE*
> *(Registered Professional Engineer in AZ and MI)*
> *Mesa, AZ*
> **
> *-------------------------------*
> **
> **
> In a message dated 8/31/2007 3:19:32 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> brubin2010@gmail.com writes:
>
> Well I finally got the permit for a 90' tower. But not without issues and
> additional expense.   My local zoning office  seems to believe that Rohn's
> specs. or TIA-222 standard are not good enough. nor is a PE Stamp on a
> letter saying the design provide is complaint.  They required each page of
> the spec. have a PE Stamp.
>
> Cost $250
>
> Fedex info 3 times about $50
>
> Also my site plan needed a surveyors stamp.  A retired surveyor came out
> looked. measured my house to road and driveway and said ok
>
> Cost $100.
>
> Additional Cost to project $400
>
> Was it excessive per PRB-1, yes as far as i am concerned, but to fight it
> it
> would have cost me more than $400 in legal fees and more time on the
> project
> with winter months ahead.
>
> So thats the update.
>
> 73's Bill N1HWC
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