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Re: [Amps] Vacuum Relay

To: "Jim W7RY" <w7ry@centurytel.net>, "Bryan Swadener" <bswadener@yahoo.com>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Vacuum Relay
From: "Paul" <w8aef@q.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Dec 2012 22:46:14 -0700
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When transmitting a series of dots, QSK, if you have relay timing issues you will observe ramps on the top and bottom of the waveform instead of a flat top and bottom rectangle.

This is a result of the ALC in the exciter seeing no load during the switching period and instantly cutting back the power output, and when it sees the load the output of the exciter will ramp up. Depending on the speed and duration of your cw you may or may not ramp up to full output at the end of the cw element.

de Paul, W8AEF

-----Original Message----- From: Jim W7RY
Sent: Monday, December 10, 2012 6:39 PM
To: Bryan Swadener ; amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Vacuum Relay

What would a waveform monitor scope have to do with a timing issue with a
vacuum relay?  You cant use one to check the other.

It takes a dual trace scope to check relay timing.

73

Jim W7RY


-----Original Message----- From: Bryan Swadener
Sent: Sunday, December 09, 2012 2:02 PM
To: amps@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [Amps] Vacuum Relay

From: Paul W8AEF
Subject: Re: Vacuum Relay


... for some reason not many hams use a scope as a waveform
monitor.

de Paul, W8AEF

That's unfortunate.  A scope isn't going to tell all but it
tells a lot about a signal.  They're not difficult to use
and don't have to cost a lot.  The vertical amplifier needs
to respond at least twice as high as the highest radio
frequency.  At HF, this is about 60 MHz, and a usable unit
can be found for about $1/MHz or so. Compared to the cost of
an amplifier, it's peanuts.  After I upgraded my lab scope,
I "retired" my Tek 2236 (100 MHz) to use as a TX monitor.

vy 73,
Bryan WA7PRC
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