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Re: [CQ-Contest] Getscores, 3830, and cherrypicking

To: Bruce Horn <bhorn@hornucopia.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Getscores, 3830, and cherrypicking
From: Jim George <n3bb@mindspring.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Jan 2008 07:21:38 -0600
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First, congratulations on your data base for the 3830 system. It is most 
usable and interesting. The search for a call-sign feature is excellent.

I suppose I am naive but it never occurred to me that one would decide on 
an entry category based on other scores. For the most part, that is decided 
during the contest based on use or non-use of packet and power levels. I 
guess a true S/O could enter any of the various assisted or multi-op 
categories, of course, but not the other way around. It's hard for a S/O to 
compete at the highest levels going that way, so it's not immediately 
obvious to me why one would choose to do that.

My main fear is potential "mining" the 3830 data to gain some "fills" from 
the info posted. For example, following SS to confirm Precedent or Section. 
This info should not be available in any form from a poster on 3830.

One thing I know for sure, if the postings are delayed until the log 
submission date, the activity will become of very low interest as the 
"raison d'etre" for 3830 is the short term feedback on the scores and the 
comments.

Jim George N3BB

At 07:04 PM 1/19/2008 -0800, you wrote:
>At 10:24 AM 1/18/2008, Richard DiDonna NN3W wrote:
> >As has been joked about quite often, there is concern that 3830,
> >while being the de facto claimed scores board for most all major
> >(and minor contests), has unfortunately become a menu board for
> >entry category selection.
>
>Since I'm in the process of revising the 3830 score posting system,
>NN3W's post inspires a couple of questions:
>
>1) If you had the ability to selectively delay the posting of your
>claimed score until after the log submission deadline, would you use
>this feature? In other words, you could fill out the form any time,
>but your posting would not be publicly available until after the log
>submission deadline if you clicked on the appropriate check box on the form.
>
>2) Would the number of contesters using the 3830 system be less,
>more, or the same if this delayed posting functionality was available?
>
>Thanks for your input.
>
>73 de Bruce, WA7BNM   (bhorn@hornucopia.com)
>
>
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