Oh C'Mon!! An east coast station complaining about their propagation ?
You got to be kidding right? You really don't realize how well you have
it compared to the rest of the country. Only a handful of stations
outside the East Coast ever make the top ten box in any category of a DX
contest. Come down and operate where I live and you will appreciate what
you have. I could probably put up a bunch of big towers and beams and
K1AR would still beat me with his wires !! :)
Jeff KU8E
On 7/8/2018 11:52 AM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Robert,
In the USA I have operated from Florida, Arkansas and Texas and remotely
from California.
The difference between NJ and Maine, NH or Vermont can be quite
significant.
Yes up here it is better than the west coast but in contesting to work
Europe the more North Easterly you are, the better because the band stays
open longer.
73
Ria, N2RJ
On Sun, Jul 8, 2018 at 9:09 AM robert f beaudoin <wa1fcn@charter.net> wrote:
GM Ria
Maybe you have never operated from outside the NorthEast
USA, but I find it
hard to sympathize with your comment about you as a W2 station
having a geographic
disadvantage against W1 land. Your QTH in N. J. what is that
100 miles from W1 land ?
I guess all things are relative but I sure wish I had your
disadvantage.
73 and GM from from Alabama WA1FCN
On 7/7/2018 8:49 PM, rjairam@gmail.com wrote:
I’m looking at my case. Under the current criteria I have not a shot in
hell. Mostly because I’m competing with W1 who has an obvious geographic
advantage. When it was aligned with US Call districts it was a bit
easier,
but I didn’t really try to qualify then.
I guess the dream will have to wait, or I could spend money and build a
station in the Caribbean and operate, remotely even.
I don’t think it will be possible to be completely fair but qualification
rules should prioritize skill first if this is going to be a competition
of
who is the best operator. There are of course some damned good operators
in
there but I think some who may not have access to a super duper station
get
left out.
73
Ria
N2RJ
On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 9:21 PM Jeff Clarke <ku8e@ku8e.com> wrote:
6. Qualification Score Calculation
The qualification score is the sum of up to 12 Event Scores. The maximum
possible qualification score is 12.000 for DL, 11.900 for the rest of
the world.
1. A maximum of 4 Event Scores may be from multi-ops (MS/M2/MM).
2. A maximum of 4 Event Scores can be from outside an applicant’s home
Selection Area (i.e., DXpeditions).
3. A maximum of 2 operators may submit scores for a single contest
from
a MS, 3 from a M2, and 4 from a MM.
4. If an operator’s callsign appears with more than one entry in a
single qualifying event (e.g., from operating at more than one
station), they may not use any scores from that contest.
5. In the unlikely case of a tie score for the final qualifying spot
in
a Selection Area, the applicants will be asked for additional
scores
beyond those submitted on the application until the tie is broken.
As long as you operate a station in your own qualification area as a SO
it counts. That would ether be from home OR as a guest operator. That's
how you could qualify without having a station at home.
Jeff
On 7/7/2018 05:38 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
What if you had no home station, let alone a tribander with wires,
could
you qualify then?
Tim / N6WIN
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On Saturday, July 7, 2018, 14:16, Igor Sokolov <ua9cdc@gmail.com>
wrote:
Yes, this was the first time one could qualify using low power.
Notwithstanding you have to have big antenna farm because even in Low
power category there were a lot of competitors. And yes, some of those
who have big stations did bother with doing low power. Tribander and
wires from the city lot is not enough to qualify for WRTC regardless of
power.
73, Igor UA9CDC
07.07.2018 22:03, Jeff Clarke пишет:
It's possible to qualify by doing low power. Your score would be
compared to others that are doing low power and not the high power
scores. If you do that you won't have to compete again the "big gun"
stations in your region. Plus you aren't getting any reduction in
score ( getting the same number of points same as HP SO guys) like
someone who did Multi-Ops. I really doubt someone who has a big
station would want to bother with doing low power.
If I'm not mistaken Julio, AD4Z, who is one of the team leaders in our
region (NA-002) did this and qualified.
Jeff KU8E
On 7/6/2018 11:11 PM, Timothy Coker via CQ-Contest wrote:
I think what’s most interesting is the guys I know who typically win
don’t spend a lot of time complaining... they spend a lot of time
working at what makes them winners.
I can also think of some people who won/win that don’t have deep
pockets at all.
Some of the best operators don’t actually have big stations. Not
taking away from the big station owners at all, as some of them are
great operators themselves. However, many are willing to let the
latest up and coming great operators take their station seats to show
what can be done.
It makes sense to me because it takes a lot of time and effort to
either build or work to pay for others to build something expensive.
That same time is thus not spent on honing operating skills.
Very similar to how many athletes aren’t rich until after (and not
for all) they have worked so very hard to win and are given
noteriety.
If a guy wants to remote or travel into my area and he beats me, so
be it... time for me to get better. Or maybe I don’t want to put in
the same operating skills effort that he did and thus I’ll just hope
he doesn’t return.
Competition is great... it shows how hard we are willing to work, or
not.
Tim / N6WIN.
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On Friday, July 6, 2018, 14:45, Jim via CQ-Contest
<cq-contest@contesting.com> wrote:
I have a somewhat different perspective, being an Ohio snowbird who
spends half the year in Florida. As a practical matter I could not
qualify without a lot of travel or remote operating from W8. And I’m
not that stupid to head north from Florida in February :-)
I had my shot at WRTC in 2014 (as N1U with partner K9NW), but I
didn’t compete to qualify for 2018, and don’t see me trying to
qualify for future WRTCs, so don’t take these comments as being self
serving.
If a W6 resident wants to operate from W1, let him do so, comparing
his scores with other W1 entrants. And conversely, if a guy living in
W1 is crazy enough to want to operate CQWW from W6, thinking the
qualifying competition there might be less, why stop him? Again,
compare his W6 score with other W6 scores, and let the WRTC
qualifying points go into his home W1 account.
So long as a person is a legitimate resident of his qualifying area,
why stop him from operating from anywhere in the world, whether in
person or remotely? I don’t have a problem to allow someone like
LZ4AX to qualify from W3, but I would not let people become
“Africans” solely by virtue of a bunch of operating from zone 33.
73 - Jim K8MR
p.s. Keep in mind the motto of the Florida Contest Group: Sooner or
later, you’ll be one of us!
On Jul 6, 2018, at 4:16 PM, WW3S <ww3s@zoominternet.net> wrote:
A west coast ham, operating a remote station with antennas in Maine,
should be competing as if he/she were physically in Maine.
Sent from my iPad
On Jul 5, 2018, at 11:56 PM, David Siddall <hhamwv@gmail.com>
wrote:
A W6 ham resident in California that operates a station on the east
coast,
whether by physical or remote means, could not qualify to be a team
leader
for the WRTC2018. Rule 7.5 - 7.7, subject to Rule 6.2.
73, Dave K3ZJ
On Thu, Jul 5, 2018 at 5:52 PM, Carol Richards <n2mm@comcast.net>
wrote:
Hi,
I agree....where you operate _from_ should determine what region
you
compete in. A W6 in California operating a remote station on the
East coast
should not be grouped with other East coast stations to qualify
for WRTC.
This remote category is getting out of hand.
Carol
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