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Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX radios
From: Bill Rowlett <kc4atu@hotmail.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 15:33:11 +0000
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Antenna system, Operator skills, then and only then the Rig.
 
73 and good DX 
Bill  KC4ATU> From: foxbat426@hotmail.com> To: tentec@contesting.com> Date: 
Sat, 31 May 2008 10:57:38 -0400> Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX radios> > > larry, 
what i am talking about is all things considered equal, the OII won't hear 
anything more than the rigs i mentioned, plus many others. read - all things 
considered equal. yes some operators are more persistent than others, some will 
give a signal a chance, some won't - so like you say there are weak links - but 
all things considered equal. the OII is a fine rig, but way to much credance is 
given to the rig - maybe that is what the original poster was trying to say. by 
the way larry the cable guy is way better than ron white! i have to say ron 
white is the "weak link" in that trio.> > 73, john> From: W1GOR@maine.rr.com> 
To: tentec@contesting.com> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 10:25:05 -0400> Subject: Re: 
[TenTec] DX radios> > John, I am not trying to be facetious when I repeat this 
ancient saying... > "A chain is no stronger than it's weakest link"... RF is 
not worth a > plug-nickel if it's not properly launched into and received from 
the > atmosphere. A rig that can pull a weak signal out of a pileup is most > 
desirable. Good audio and a great 'fist' will surely get someone's > attention. 
But, operators who are courteous, persistent, and patient will > make the most 
of just about any lashup of equipment, antennas, and band > conditions will get 
the job done... We've all seen the setups on field > day... Jury-rigged 
antennas, intermittent power supplies, and endless > supplies of flies, 
mosquitoes, and rain, heat, no sleep, and the immutable > laws of Murphy, never 
seems to discourage the operator who really want to > have a great time working 
under adverse conditions. ...and yet, there are > the LIDS, the MORONS, and the 
RUDE. My favorite line from the 'Blue Collar > Comedy Tour' is one of Ron 
White's lines..."YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID..!!!"> > In the TV broadcast industry, 
there are 'chains'... the audio chain, and the > video chain... and each chain 
is no stronger that the weakest link in that > chain...> > vy 73, Larry - 
W1GOR> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "john ferro" 
<foxbat426@hotmail.com>> To: "Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment" 
<tentec@contesting.com>> Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 7:22 PM> Subject: Re: 
[TenTec] DX radios> > > > ok point taken - but nothing substitutes for a great 
antenna - period! there > are some instances where all the bells and whistles 
will get the station - > they are far and few between though - i've got to 
laugh at all the operators > working an OII or elecraft K3 or some other 
megabuck top end rig and > thinking they have the ultimate station because of 
the rig - yet their > antenna is a half hearted piece of wire or half hearted 
vertical with 10 > radials that they say can work all the bands - i'll take the 
cheapo 200 rig > with a properly designed antenna system installed correctly 
vs. the 5000.00 > rig and a 100.00 worth of wire or "second thought" antenna 
system anyday.> > john> Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 19:07:38 -0400> From: 
roncasa@verizon.net> To: > tentec@contesting.com> Subject: Re: [TenTec] DX 
radios> > Kc9cdt@aol.com > wrote:> > > >> > Just the other day I was tryuing to 
work a DX station. Had > the Collins on. > > Heard him, but coul not copy him. 
He was pretty weak 4-4 > maybe in the clear.. > > BUT he was not in the clear. 
Someone was 2 Khz away > and very strong.> >> > I turned on the OII, did some 
work with AGC, > bandwidth and High cut.> > BINGO, clear copy. I worked him.> 
>> > > > > > > Thank you for proving my point:> > Guys can boast what rigs they 
have and it > don't mean a thing if they do > not know enough to use it.> > 
again, it's > the operator.> > Thank you> > Peace> Ron> > 
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