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Re: [TenTec] OMNI-D Series C

To: tentec@contesting.com, "R. Eric Sluder" <resluder@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI-D Series C
From: Al Gulseth <wb5jnc@centurytel.net>
Reply-to: wb5jnc@centurytel.net, Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Aug 2014 16:38:19 -0500
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Eric,

Unless you're really scraping the bottom of the barrel in the bank account an 
Omni B or C series, or a Corsair for that matter, won't set you back very 
much in current terms. For me the more critical issue is finding space on the 
operating desk for one of these "solid state boatanchors" as I lovingly call 
them along with the matching power supply and external VFO. That said, I 
still contend that they will stand up against (and as noted, in some ways are 
preferable to) a significant portion of the newer stuff out there when the 
going gets tough on the bands.

73, Al

On Thu August 21 2014 4:16:11 pm R. Eric Sluder via TenTec wrote:
> Rick,
>
> I agree with your assessment and I appreciate the brick wall variable
> filtering of dsp.  I'm not fond of the dsp NR in the IF based systems. 
> Like you, I've found an external dsp unit does wonders on general noise via
> the audio route.  I use that a lot on noisy nights verses the built in NR.
>
> As others have noted... The OMNI VII is gentler on the ears when using the
> built in NR and I'll use it sometimes with pleasing results.
>
> Gosh now I want an Omni D Series C!!! I need to look at the balance in my
> bank account and that'll cool my heals real quick! :-)
>
> 73
>
> -Eric
> W9WLW
>
> > On Aug 21, 2014, at 4:41 PM, "Rick - DJ0IP / NJ0IP" <Rick@DJ0IP.de>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Ralph, there is a simple explanation of why you need DSP.
> >
> > First the industry builds radios for us with much more sensitivity than
> > we actually need, especially on the low bands, amplifying everything
> > including the noise.
> > Then they tell us we need DSP to reduce the noise and add it on for an
> > extra few hundred bucks.
> > The magazines do a whoopee-sh@t on how well the DSP reduces the noise and
> > Joe Ham swallows it.
> >
> > Seems the old radios didn't need the DSP.
> > When the noise got bad we reduced the RF gain and just forfeited the
> > S-meter in exchange for good reception.
> > So what.
> > Now Ten-Tec has solved that bit too, with an S-meter that always reads
> > accurately, regardless of preamp, ATT or RF gain setting.
> >
> > There are times where DSP in the audio line will reduce the white noise.
> > An external Audio DSP in the speaker or headphones line solves that and
> > can be used with all the transceivers in the shack; you don't have to buy
> > it over and over again with each transceiver.
> >
> > AND DSP IF filtering does save on expensive Xtal filters.  And it does
> > have steep skirts.  So I have to admit that this added value to the
> > radios.
> >
> > 73 - Rick, DJ0IP
> > (Nr. Frankfurt am Main)
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: TenTec [mailto:tentec-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of Ralph
> > Arnold
> > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 5:36 PM
> > To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment
> > Subject: Re: [TenTec] OMNI-D Series C
> >
> > Hi Alex  I also have one TenTen Omni D  Bought it last July while up in
> > Mich.  What a great Receiver low noise floor.  I thought it had a weak
> > front end but when I adjusted the ant resonate Gang Busters.  I was
> > really impressed. for an old radio  I don't see what all the whoop pla is
> > about DSP if you got a good desing like that.  Gota go just thought I
> > would throw in my two cents worth.  73s  KD8BTQ   Ralph
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Aug 21, 2014 at 7:47 AM, Alexander N. Gerli <ac1wye@gmail.com>
> >
> > wrote:
> >> Hi folks!  Well, something new and different in the shack. I've been
> >> licensed since my 'teens (1964). It may have taken a few years (!),
> >> but I just got my first Ten Tec xcvr! My OMNI-D is loaded and has the
> >> 255
> >
> > P/S.
> >
> >> Even though it dates from the 1980s, it is a really nice radio. The
> >> first thing I noticed was the RX noise floor - very quiet. The counter
> >> timebase was off about 100Hz for WWV, and that was an easy adjustment.
> >> Beats me why I waited so long to get one of these. It is one fine rig.
> >>
> >> Anxious to get on one of the Sunday Nets.
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