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Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)

To: n4py3@earthlink.net, tentec@contesting.com, wb5jnc@centurytel.net
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)
From: Joe Papworth via TenTec <tentec@contesting.com>
Reply-to: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment <tentec@contesting.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 2016 16:19:18 -0500
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It has stayed on with the tubes removed for a while.?
I'm examining/ohming the tubes now.


-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Moreschi &lt;n4py3@earthlink.net&gt;
To: wb5jnc &lt;wb5jnc@centurytel.net&gt;; Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment 
&lt;tentec@contesting.com&gt;
Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur)

 
 
 
Don't overlook the possibility on an intermittent short in one of the 811's. 
 
Carl Moreschi N4PY 
58 Hogwood Rd 
Louisburg, NC 27549 
www.n4py.com 
 
On 1/26/2016 2:54 PM, Al Gulseth wrote: 
&gt; Joe, 
&gt; 
&gt; Just an ohms check may not be enough. You may be dealing with an 
intermittent 
&gt; breakdown under high voltage. A "hi-pot" (high potential) test with an 
&gt; insulation tester etc. would be the only way to know for sure. A winding 
&gt; layer to adjacent layer partial short in the HV side could also account 
for 
&gt; your symptoms, and might not be obvious because the winding resistance 
could 
&gt; show right at the low edge of the manufacturer's spec. (I went through 
that 
&gt; scenario years ago with a HV filter choke in a small AM BC transmitter.) 
&gt; 
&gt; 73 es GL, Al 
&gt; 
&gt; On Tue January 26 2016 11:28:03 am Joe Papworth via TenTec wrote: 
&gt;&gt;     Thanks Andy. Was it the HV secondary that shorted? 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;    I isolated the HV secondary from the HV board and it reads open to 
the 
&gt;&gt; frame and chassis. (Reads about 45 ohms when connected to the board) 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;    Thanks, Joe, K8MP 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   -----Original Message----- 
&gt;&gt;   From: P C Andy Anderson&lt;xtraham58@hotmail.com&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   To: Discussion of Ten-Tec Equipment&lt;tentec@contesting.com&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Sent: Tue, Jan 26, 2016 11:52 am 
&gt;&gt;   Subject: Re: [TenTec] Model 411 amp (aka Centaur) 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Joe, I had a similar problem with my Centurion AMP.  It eventually 
failed 
&gt;&gt;   completely. The secondary of the power transformer shorted to the 
frame. I 
&gt;&gt; had the Xformer rewound at TRS.  BTW this transformer problem is a 
known. 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   73' Andy, W3LI 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   ________________________________________ 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Tuesday noontime, Joe: 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   I have a Centaur..............keep it covered when not in use. 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   My Elmer told me to always keep it covered..................dust is 
the 
&gt;&gt;   problem. 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Even when covered, open it up every two-three years and do a 
internal 
&gt;&gt;   cleaning. 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   N1MHC/alsirois 
&gt;&gt;   ============= 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Gents, 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Have any of you gone a few rounds with a Centaur amp? 
&gt;&gt;   I have a one that blows fuses very intermittently. It vaporizes them 
both, 
&gt;&gt;   simultaneously, so it's apparently a dead-short somewhere. This 
happens 
&gt;&gt; even in stand-by. (i.e. No key-down) 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Before I tear into it, anyone have any ideas of common failures in 
these 
&gt;&gt;   amps? 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt; 
&gt;&gt;   Later, Joe, K8MP 
&gt;&gt; 
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