John, The Marine Never-Seez I have has the ingredients you listed and
more but NO COPPER. Back in our yachting phase when for 9 years we lived
aboard our sloop "Pacific High" , home port of San Diego, I used
anti-seize products with copper and never had a problem.
My current NEVER-SEEZ is Bostic brand Mariner's Choice with listed
ingredients of: Graphite, Calcium Fluoride, Zinc Oxide, and Aluminum.
There are other ingredients not listed. I bought this Mariner's Choice
to get better rain protection A N D because I don't remember where my
partially used up quart of copper containing anti-seize is currently
residing. Not a senior moment but maybe a senior era.
Patrick NJ5G
On 5/10/2014 4:43 PM, Jon Pearl - W4ABC wrote:
Hi Patrick,
I'm on the Gulf coast of Florida and I'm surrounded on three sides by
salt water. I use Bostik brand Never Sees 'Regular Grade' lubricant
http://www.bostik-us.com/sites/default/files/NSRegular.pdf on the SS
fasteners on my tower and antennas - specifically because it's noted
in their literature as being beneficial for use in salt water
environments. I've only used the product for a couple of years now,
so as of yet, I don't have much of a track record with it. Its major
ingredients are grease with graphite, copper flake, aluminum powder
and zinc oxide. Does it contain some amount of Molybdenum disulfide?
It's not called out in this product's ingredients list, so I'm not
sure if trace amounts do exist.
Of note: both the 'Blue Moly'
http://www.bostik-us.com/sites/default/files/NSBlueMoly.pdf and 'Black
Moly' http://www.bostik-us.com/sites/default/files/NSBlackMoly.pdf
lubricants contain Molybdenum disulfide.
Along with the products listed above, there are also formulations for
Marine, High Temp Stainless, High Temp Stainless Nuclear Grade and a
few others at
http://www.bostik-us.com/market-products/product-assembly/mro/products/
73,
Jon Pearl - W4ABC
www.w4abc.com
On 5/10/2014 10:09 AM, Patrick Greenlee wrote:
Had a chat with my mechanical engineering consultant (MS Mech Eng
UCLA and 35+ years of hands on experience.) I mentioned how SS
galling was a topic of interest to hams especially regarding towers.
He gave me this tidbit of advice. Do N O T use moly-disulfide
based lubricants anywhere near salt or brackish water. This would be
an issue for for coastal or near coastal hams. What happens is that
the chemistry of the lubricant in the presence of salt will LOCK the
threads. For this reason the Navy does not use Never-seez on subs
(my friends specialty was a deep diving research sub, The Dolphin -
555), only the copper based anti-seize products.
Patrick NJ5G
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