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Subject: [AMPS] ARRL and QST
From: sheepdip@continet.com (Larry L. Ravlin)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1999 20:54:12 -0800
You have totaly misunderstood what I have been sayin or misconstrued it. 
This is not only cw that I have referring to (and I probably should have
mentioned it previously)I hate to see cw being sidelined because of
disintrest and turning to other things.  I believe that one should have a
complete knowledge of the radio spectrum and that to throw one away because
 some believe that it is archaic will be a loss to all.  

I do not really believe that a person has to work for years to attain the
level of 13 words per min. I am not real good at cw and I will be the first
to admit it but I can copy about 15 to 18 words per min. without working
for years at it.  now I grant you the level of comprehension between
different individuals is not the same but 'years'?? come on now, I think
that every one can learn 15 without too much trouble. I would like to learn
a great deal more about amp building but the tech stuff still gives me
trouble and I had military 'A' and 'P' schools but I am not advocating  
getting rid of the written test because it is hard for me, I will apply
myself and research the manuals and ask questions and it will come to me.

Thats it I have overextended myself and it's only my opinion.

Larry 

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> From: Bob Marston <k1ta@earthlink.net>
> To: Larry L. Ravlin <sheepdip@continet.com>; Andy Wallace
<andywallace@home.com>; Jim Reid <jreid@aloha.net>
> Cc: CW Reflector <cw@qth.net>; 'AMPS' <amps@contesting.com>; Gilmer, Mike
<mgilmer@gnlp.com>
> Subject: Re: [AMPS] ARRL and QST
To: <amps@contesting.com>
> Date: Tuesday, January 26, 1999 8:09 PM
> 
> At 05:48 PM 1/26/99 -0800, Larry L. Ravlin wrote:
> >
> >I hardly think that cw is an archaic mode of communication
> ...Snip....
> >I would venture to say
> >that 90% of the people who want to do away with cw are too lazy to put
> >forth the effort to acquire the skill to use it. 
> 
> What do you base that on?  I've been licensed for 25 years and have met
> quite a few hams that have remained Techs despite having worked for years
> to get there code speed up to 13 WPM. Most have demonstrated technical
> abilities far beyond many Extras I know.
> 
> >I don't have an extra
> >class yet but I am going to get it before another "dumbing down to
> >equiptment operator" from the FCC is put into effect.
> 
> I've been licensed as Amateur Extra for 20 years, and there has been a
> great deal of "dumbing down" which includes a many Extras and CW
Operators.
>  The Appliance Operator phenomenon is not something that is unique to
those
> licensed below General as some would have us believe. Most of the guys
> doing 60WPM in a contest do little or no construction inside their
shacks.
> It's usually limited to various gadgets. Most construction that goes on
is
> usually limited to antennas. A few hearty souls will build an amplifier
> every once in a while. As to cutting edge stuff like spread
> spectrum...forget it...
> 
> >It is not
> >unreasonable to expect cw skills from an operator,  this is "HAM RADIO'
for
> >crying out loud, put forth some effort and be proud of your skills.
> 
> What is unreasonable is requiring CW skills for access HF priviledges.
One
> other misconception that needs to be cleared up is that those who
advocate
> for such license class want CW done away with. That is a convient
Strawman
> set up by those who advocate for CW simply because it is a barrier to
entry.
> 
> Mr. Ravlin seeks to question the pride one has in his/her license simply
> because they advocate for a no code HF license.   Your going to have to
do
> better than that.
> 
> 
> 73s
> 
> Bob K1TA

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