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Re: [Amps] 3-500Z plate durability

To: <jsb@digistar.com>, "Joe Isabella" <n3ji@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] 3-500Z plate durability
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Fri, 12 Dec 2003 05:24:08 -0800
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>On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Joe Isabella wrote:
>
>> In my amp, when I transmit (espeically in the typical long-winded 350W
>> carrier AM transmission), my RF Parts 3-500ZGs get quite red (almost
>> orange).  After 1 year of pretty consistent use (abuse??) like this,
>> they still run full output.
>
>What's the grid current at that point - 80mA or thereabouts?  Plate
>current?
>
>I had a couple QSOs early this morning on CW and noticed that the plates
>begin to show a faint bit of color near the bottom of the plates - the
>tops near the cap stay gray.
>
>
>I have to learn to be more careful though - i've been sloppy keeping the
>grid current under 260mA when tuning.
>
**  3-500Zs have no grid-I rating.  They have a grid-dissipation rating 
of 20w --  which can be exceeded (as in glowing grid wires) for brief 
periods without damage.  Grounded-grid/cathode-driven amplifiers should 
not be adjusted with the grid-I meter.  Instead, they should be tuned 
with max rated drive, preferably pulsed, and adjusted for max P-out with 
the Tune and Load controls.  With P-out peaked, grid-current will always 
be ok because excessive grid-I will always rob electrons from the output. 
  Also, because grid-I only flows when the anode is not very positive, 
too little grid-I tells us that the anode-V is not swinging low enough 
during the peak in cathode-emission.  Naturally, when this is happening, 
P-out drops off.   Thus, for a cathode-driven amplifier, tune for P-max 
and relax.  
>
>> I think the BIG difference between these and the sweep-tubes you
>> reference it is that they're just not transmitter tubes and aren't built
>> handle it.
>
>Must be - I should swap the filter capacitors out for new ones in the AC-3
>and get that thing out of mothballs.  Then again, I like my Ten-Tec
>Jupiter...  i'll let the Drake age a little more.
>
>
>
>Thanks,
>Jason
>
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