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Re: [Amps] Resonant choke filter

To: Will Matney <craxd1@ezwv.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Resonant choke filter
From: R.Measures <r@somis.org>
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 2004 20:12:44 -0700
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On Aug 2, 2004, at 10:54 AM, Will Matney wrote:


Peter,
With looking through the books texts I have here, That is the way you design this filter using a swinging choke. With mine, I needed 400 Vdc @ 80mA maximum. So Lcrit = E / Imax which is 400 / 80 = 5 Henrys. Now the choke is a 5-20 henry swinging choke. So to get the minimum current for the bleeder resistor to have the 20 Henry portion we take 400 / 20mA = 20 Henrys or 20H x 20mA = 400V. So for 20 mA at 500 Volts, our bleeder resistor would be 400 / .02 = 20K ohms. Then to size the wattage, 400 x .02 = 8 watts. A 10 or 15 watt resistor would work here. As long as Lcrit is met, the swinging chokes inductance will swing and level out with the DC load without saturating.

Will -- Swinging filter chokes work well with constant current loads such as RTTY, FM, and AM linear amplifier service. However, with a varying current load, such as in a SSB linear amplifier, they do not provide satisfactory transient regulation. The only types of filter that do are the capacitor-type and the resonant-choke-type. Those who doubt this should do a bench test with a DC oscilloscope since a meter can not follow the transients. Step up or down the load current and the resultant V-transients are no less than amazing. This is the reason why Harris, Collins, Henry, Hughes, and other manufacturers of SSB amplifiers use resonant-choke filters.
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If Lcrit is below this value, it will try to run as a capacitive input filter. Actually, I will be adding a page on filters to the transformer tutorial when I get to feeling like it as promised. I have some done, but nothing ready yet to publish it. Last, Tony, I0JX, has a page on this at: http://www.qsl.net/i0jx/supply.html

Will Matney

peter.chadwick@Zarlink.Com wrote:



Is actual resonance what you want? The argument I've seen runs as follows;

In a choke input supply, there's a critical minimum value of inductance for
regulation. At low currents, this is very high, but if the choke is tuned
slightly HF of the ripple frequency, it looks like a very much bigger
inductance. At resonance, it will look like a resistor, of course. As the
load current increases, the critical value of inductance decreases, and the
choke will start to lose inductance anyway.


From this, the choke needs to be tuned a tad HF at minimum load. This
certainly ahs worked for me. Incidentally, by using negative lead
filtering, you can rectify the ripple across the choke for a low current
negative bias supply.....


I tend to go for negative lead filtering anyway to ease the choke
insulation requirements.

73

Peter G3RZP


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