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Re: [Amps] Question about safety ground connection

To: <craxd1@verizon.net>, <amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] Question about safety ground connection
From: "Gary Schafer" <garyschafer@comcast.net>
Date: Tue, 15 Nov 2005 21:58:28 -0600
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
But when you mark a white wire with black tape it is no longer a white wire,
it becomes a black wire.

You can mark any wire any color you wish to and use it as the color you have
marked it and it is perfectly acceptable.

73
Gary  K4FMX

> -----Original Message-----
> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
> Behalf Of Will Matney
> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 9:22 PM
> To: amps@contesting.com
> Subject: Re: [Amps] Question about safety ground connection
> 
> Gary,
> 
> No, because the black from the switch has to mate with the brass or dark
> screw (or black wire) on the light fixture or fan, that's what the NEC
> says. Then the main white return has to go to the silver screw, or white
> wire. You only have those two screws (or wires), plus a green on some for
> ground. That only leaves the white going to the switch to be used as a
> hot, and tied to the black in the fixtures junction box which comes from
> the breaker, or the fuse. If you put the black as hot to the switch, and
> then run the white back to a brass screw, or black wire, the inspector
> will catch it if he looks and fail it. In other words, that would put you
> having two whites on the fixture. I learned that years ago in school under
> house wiring, and after I got out and did commercial work. Sure you can do
> it the other way, but it wont pass inspection, or wont here in Ohio.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Will
> 
> 
> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> 
> On 11/15/05 at 9:11 PM Gary Schafer wrote:
> 
> >It doesn't matter which wire you use as hot and which one is switched
> when
> >connected to a switch. I have a wiring book that has two different
> >examples.
> >One way white is hot to the switch and the other example black is hot to
> >the
> >switch.
> >
> >You should always mark a white wire that is used as hot with black tape
> at
> >both ends to identify it as a hot wire.
> >It is also common practice to come into the bottom of the switch with the
> >always hot wire and go out the top of the switch with the switched wire.
> >
> >73
> >Gary  K4FMX
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com]
> On
> >> Behalf Of Will Matney
> >> Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 7:35 PM
> >> To: amps@contesting.com
> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] Question about safety ground connection
> >>
> >> In a switch leg using say 12-2 or 14-2 romex, the white wire is hot at
> >the
> >> switch. The white and black tie together in the junction box of the
> light
> >> fixture, and the black off the switch goes to the black wire on the
> lamp.
> >> So yes, this is a case where the white is hot. The NEC only allows this
> >> case too.
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >> Will
> >>
> >> *********** REPLY SEPARATOR  ***********
> >>
> >> On 11/15/05 at 8:24 PM Gudguyham@aol.com wrote:
> >>
> >> >In a message dated 11/15/2005 1:20:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> >> >craxd1@verizon.net writes:
> >> >
> >> >I always  want to know a neutral isn't hot unless it's going to a
> switch
> >> >leg
> >> >which I  think is the only NEC exception to the  rule.
> >> >
> >> >Best,
> >> >
> >> >Will
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >If a "white" wire is hot, it is not a neutral.  So a neutral is never
> >> hot
> >> >unless there is a fault.
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