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Re: [Amps] al 80B Need good tuning procedure.

To: Dave Weiss <davidhweiss@gmail.com>, <dpipes@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: [Amps] al 80B Need good tuning procedure.
From: Gary Patterson <gpatterson53@hotmail.com>
Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 12:46:09 -0400
List-post: <mailto:amps@contesting.com>
Please don't take this the wrong way, but have you read the manual?  There is 
an extensive write up on tune up procedures.
> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:28:54 +0000> From: davidhweiss@gmail.com> To: 
> dpipes@earthlink.net> CC: Amps@contesting.com> Subject: Re: [Amps] al 80B 
> Need good tuning procedure.> > Hello All:> > I think that I have the right 
> group to ask this question:> > Being new to tube amps, can someone please 
> tell me the right procedure to> tune an AL-80B? I am not new to ham radio, 
> just the amp. I have it on a> 240VAC line. I have it connectes via ALC and 
> send cables to my 756Pro III.> Should I use the rigs auto tuner on 15M when 
> called for? I have a Force 12> C3SS qand an 40M wire dipole on a switch.> > I 
> need the initial setup and band to band tweaking procedure. I used the> 
> procedure that comes with the amp, but I do not see the results (1KW)> 
> anywhere but around the 14,250 initial setting.> > Please help. I made it 
> throughh CWSSB but I think I could do better.> > 73> > Dave K3FT> > On 
> 10/28/07, D Pipes <dpipes@earthlink.net> wrote:> >> > When my tube broke on 
> the 811H I also lost a grid resistor might check> > that> > before you kill a 
> new tube. And for what it is worth I have replaced with> > a> > set of RF 
> Parts Taylors seem to work great zero problems now that I tune> > it> > right 
> <g>> >> > > [Original Message]> > > From: TROY D SINGLETON-N5ARK 
> <N5ARK@COMCAST.NET>> > > To: Scott Manthe <scott.manthe@gmail.com>; 
> <Amps@contesting.com>> > > Date: 10/28/2007 5:12:04 PM> > > Subject: Re: 
> [Amps] al-811 Blowing fuses Like Crazy> > >> > > Yeah I was looking at them 
> and they did not look bad and was cheaper> > than> > > anywhere else I 
> looked. I was just not sure about Penta being that I> > have> > > not heard a 
> lot about the company. But I also read that most of the> > tubes> > > are 
> made at the same facotry in China but marketed under different names> > > 
> Like RF Parts..> > >> > > I think I am going to order a set of the PENTAS and 
> if there is some> > sort> > of> > > other problem and one blows at least I 
> wont be out a lot of money.> > >> > > Thanks, Troy N5ARK> > >> > > ----- 
> Original Message -----> > > From: "Scott Manthe" <scott.manthe@gmail.com>> > 
> > To: "TROY D SINGLETON-N5ARK" <N5ARK@COMCAST.NET>> > > Sent: Sunday, October 
> 28, 2007 4:17 PM> > > Subject: Re: [Amps] al-811 Blowing fuses Like Crazy> > 
> >> > >> > > > Troy,> > > > Actually, I know I said eBay sucks, but the guy on 
> eBay that sells> > Penta> > > > 811As is probably OK. RF parts seems pretty 
> expensive compared to the> > > > Penta guy.I think he's a ham, too. I think 
> you can get a matched set> > of> > 4> > > > for 69.00.> > > >> > > > I'm glad 
> you found the problem.> > > >> > > > 73,> > > > Scott, N9AA> > > >> > > > 
> TROY D SINGLETON-N5ARK wrote:> > > >> Well I got a broken tube. The center 
> tube i am able to rotate about 5> > > >> degrees with it still in the 
> holes...Where is the best place to bu a> > set> > > >> of these tubes?> > > 
> >>> > > >> Troy> > > >> ----- Original Message -----> > > >> From: "Scott 
> Manthe" <scott.manthe@gmail.com>> > > >> To: "TROY D SINGLETON-N5ARK" 
> <N5ARK@COMCAST.NET>> > > >> Sent: Friday, October 26, 2007 1:31 PM> > > >> 
> Subject: Re: [Amps] al-811 Blowing fuses Like Crazy> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> 
> > > >>> eBay generally sucks. If the guy told you it was working, tell him> > 
> you> > > >>> want your money back.> > > >>>> > > >>> It sounds like you've 
> either got a short in the tubes, or one of the> > > >>> caps/resistors is 
> shorted. Tom Rauch, who used to design amps for> > > >>> Ameritron, or one of 
> the other guys who know more than me, can tell> > you> > > >>> a little more 
> about exactly what the trouble is.> > > >>>> > > >>> If I remember correctly, 
> this shouldn't be too difficult a repair.> > > >>>> > > >>> 73,> > > >>> 
> Scott, N9AA> > > >>>> > > >>> TROY D SINGLETON-N5ARK wrote:> > > >>>> > > 
> >>>> Greetings All,> > > >>>>> > > >>>> I bought a AL-811 on ebay. Nice 
> looking Amp. Well it arrived in the> > > >>>> mail and I pluged it in and the 
> first thing happens is fuses go to> > > >>>> blowing. (He sent the amp with 
> the tubes still in place ;() ..I> > open> > > >>>> the cover and look at the 
> tubes and connectors again and everything> > > >>>> seems to be in place. A 
> little up so I pushed the tues ack down and> > put> > > >>>> new fuses in. 
> Still blows them everytime within about a second. I> > look> > > >>>> over 
> the amp and I have never worked on them before. There is a> > little> > > 
> >>>> green wire at the back of the amp that has come un-soldiered and is> > > 
> >>>> free in the air as in not touching anything...seems the amp is> > 
> arcing> > > >>>> right under the middle tue somewhere. Can anyone lead me in 
> the> > right> > > >>>> direction.> > > >>>>> > > >>>> Not getting off to a 
> good start on amps. this is the 2nd bad one I> > have> > > >>>> got....> > > 
> >>>>> > > >>>> 73's> > > >>>> N5ARK> > > >>>>> > > >>>> 
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