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Re: [Amps] pole transformer

To: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>, <Amps@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
From: "Carl" <km1h@jeremy.mv.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Feb 2009 08:29:58 -0500
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I guess you need to come down off your pedestal Jim and try to 
understand what I said.

I was not advocating drinking or bathing in it by any convoluted stretch 
of your imagination. My comment was simply ridiculing the paranoia and 
mythology surrounding the subject as regard to ham use. Industrial 
pollution or other chemical formulations are not part of the discussion.

However, no responsible study has shown that a casual skin contact with 
transformer oil ( generic term covering caps and dummy loads) has harmed 
a human. I dont consider Wikipedia as a responsible source of anything 
since anyone can edit with their own biases.

If my GE Pyranol capacitor started to leak I would toss it out the same 
as if a later non PCB cap leaked. But I wouldnt think twice about using 
another good one as a replacement.

Suggesting that I would intentionally physically hurt anyone on here is 
the height of irresponsibility on your part.

Carl
KM1H




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>
To: <Amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer


> Carl,
> Let's not twist things around. Read my response again. I would never 
> try to
> force my views on someone else, and I didn't say anything about people 
> who
> use these parts being irresponsible. I'm saying you should go ahead 
> and
> drink the stuff if you want to, but you are being irresponsible for 
> telling
> everyone else it's safe just because you haven't figured out the 
> dangers.
>
> Everyone can do as they please, but they should have reliable data to 
> base
> their decision on. If I had a working component that contained PCBs, 
> and
> didn't leak, I'd probably keep it in operation until I found a 
> suitable
> replacement. I'd never buy one intentionally though.
>
> Sometimes the members of the list get more than they paid for in your
> advice, sometime exactly what they paid for, but at times like this, 
> they
> may take a big loss if they put too much stock in your advice.
>
> Jim Smith
> KQ6UV
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:02 AM
>> To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>>
>> You are quite entitled to believe whatever you want, it certainly 
>> doesnt
>> make you right or force your views on others.
>>
>> However there are still many PCB filled caps, transformers, dummy 
>> loads,
>> etc in regular use by individuals who I wouldnt consider 
>> irresponsible
>> by any distorted stretch of the imagination.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>
>> To: <Amps@contesting.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:28 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>>
>>
>> > There's loads of data whether you choose to agree with the
>> > interpretation or
>> > not. There are plenty of safe alternatives available.
>> >
>> > It's irresponsible to condone the use of PCBs just because you 
>> > haven't
>> > been
>> > convinced of the hazards.
>> >
>> > Jim Smith
>> > KQ6UV
>> >
>> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:49 PM
>> >> To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
>> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> >>
>> >> Its the lack of data that substantiates the EPA claims that is
>> >> missing.
>> >>
>> >> Carl
>> >> KM1H
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> ----- Original Message -----
>> >> From: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>
>> >> To: <Amps@contesting.com>
>> >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:13 PM
>> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> > Wow! I'd love to see the data that's based on.
>> >> >
>> >> > Jim Smith, KQ6UV
>> >> >
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com
>> >> >> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
>> >> >> Behalf Of Carl
>> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:57 PM
>> >> >> To: Gudguyham@aol.com; w5rg@yahoo.com; Amps@contesting.com
>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Pole pigs havent used PCB's since the late 60's. Id take one
>> >> >> anyway
>> >> >> since its all a hoax unles you drink a pint with dinner every
>> >> >> night.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Carl
>> >> >> KM1H
>> >> >
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