...I sure hope you don't plan a PCB based diet!!!!!
Alex 4Z5KS
-----Original Message-----
From: amps-bounces@contesting.com [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
Behalf Of Carl
Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2009 3:59 PM
To: amps@contesting.com; Pete Smith
Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
Good link Pete.
Although it appears to be written by a committee of academics and then
scoured by a room full of lawyers I was able to glean a few almost
positive statements.
"PCB exposures in the general population are not likely to result in
skin and liver effects."
"Rats that ate food containing high levels of PCBs for two years
developed liver cancer."
"Polychlorinated biphenyls are mixtures of up to 209 individual
chlorinated compounds (known as congeners)."
The last quote confirms my earlier statement that there are many forms
of PCB's and with varying degrees of toxicity. Its not like weve been
exposed to the Agent Orange variety.
If we scale up the rat test it might take a few hundred years for
humans.
What I would be concerned about is what is coming from imports and Im
sure I dont have to identify one particular country.
Carl
KM1H
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pete Smith" <n4zr@contesting.com>
To: <amps@contesting.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 7:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
> Hey, guys, why not accept the best advice available, from CDC? It's a
> lot
> more measured, and qualified, than either of your positions.
>
> http://www.atsdr.cdc.gov/tfacts17.html
>
> 73, Pete
>
>
> At 08:12 PM 2/2/2009, you wrote:
>>Carl,
>>Let's not twist things around. Read my response again. I would never
>>try to
>>force my views on someone else, and I didn't say anything about people
>>who
>>use these parts being irresponsible. I'm saying you should go ahead
>>and
>>drink the stuff if you want to, but you are being irresponsible for
>>telling
>>everyone else it's safe just because you haven't figured out the
>>dangers.
>>
>>Everyone can do as they please, but they should have reliable data to
>>base
>>their decision on. If I had a working component that contained PCBs,
>>and
>>didn't leak, I'd probably keep it in operation until I found a
>>suitable
>>replacement. I'd never buy one intentionally though.
>>
>>Sometimes the members of the list get more than they paid for in your
>>advice, sometime exactly what they paid for, but at times like this,
>>they
>>may take a big loss if they put too much stock in your advice.
>>
>>Jim Smith
>>KQ6UV
>>
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 9:02 AM
>> > To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> >
>> > You are quite entitled to believe whatever you want, it certainly
>> > doesnt
>> > make you right or force your views on others.
>> >
>> > However there are still many PCB filled caps, transformers, dummy
>> > loads,
>> > etc in regular use by individuals who I wouldnt consider
>> > irresponsible
>> > by any distorted stretch of the imagination.
>> >
>> > Carl
>> > KM1H
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>
>> > To: <Amps@contesting.com>
>> > Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 11:28 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> >
>> >
>> > > There's loads of data whether you choose to agree with the
>> > > interpretation or
>> > > not. There are plenty of safe alternatives available.
>> > >
>> > > It's irresponsible to condone the use of PCBs just because you
>> > > haven't
>> > > been
>> > > convinced of the hazards.
>> > >
>> > > Jim Smith
>> > > KQ6UV
>> > >
>> > >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> From: Carl [mailto:km1h@jeremy.mv.com]
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 6:49 PM
>> > >> To: Jim Smith; Amps@contesting.com
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> > >>
>> > >> Its the lack of data that substantiates the EPA claims that is
>> > >> missing.
>> > >>
>> > >> Carl
>> > >> KM1H
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> ----- Original Message -----
>> > >> From: "Jim Smith" <j-r-smith@sbcglobal.net>
>> > >> To: <Amps@contesting.com>
>> > >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 9:13 PM
>> > >> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> > Wow! I'd love to see the data that's based on.
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Jim Smith, KQ6UV
>> > >> >
>> > >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> > >> >> From: amps-bounces@contesting.com
>> > >> >> [mailto:amps-bounces@contesting.com] On
>> > >> >> Behalf Of Carl
>> > >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2009 4:57 PM
>> > >> >> To: Gudguyham@aol.com; w5rg@yahoo.com; Amps@contesting.com
>> > >> >> Subject: Re: [Amps] pole transformer
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Pole pigs havent used PCB's since the late 60's. Id take one
>> > >> >> anyway
>> > >> >> since its all a hoax unles you drink a pint with dinner every
>> > >> >> night.
>> > >> >>
>> > >> >> Carl
>> > >> >> KM1H
>> > >> >
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