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Subject: Re: [Amps] Regulations
From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
Date: Wed, 09 Oct 2013 16:20:26 -0400
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On 10/9/2013 2:49 PM, peter chadwick wrote:
Roger,

The 43 dB applies at 2.5 times the necessary bandwidth away, or for SSB, at 
about 7.5kHz away from the centre of the transmission. I would like to send you 
the results of the measurements of SM5BSZ which show only one rig meeting the 
requirement....the FT1000D, but my ISP won't allow sending emails over 3Mb.

Thanks Peter.  I have both the 5000MP and the FT1000D-MK-V

73

Roger (K8RI)

73

Peter G3RZP


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  Message Received: Oct 09 2013, 06:17 PM
  From: "Roger (K8RI)" <k8ri@rogerhalstead.com>
  To: amps@contesting.com
  Cc:
  Subject: Re: [Amps] Regulations
On 10/9/2013 12:07 PM, peter chadwick wrote:
  > Manfred,
  >
  > Chile would seem in practice to be not that much different to most other 
countries!
  <snip>
>Note that the FCC translation of SM329 into Part 97 managed to omit
   >the 10 log P, so it's 43dB in the US.
Apparently this doesn't include IM3 as I think few amps, or even rigs
  sold in the US have an IM3 as good as 43db or did I miss something.
I think QRO builders, "in general" have cleaner signals than the
  commercial amps.
A note on ID in the US, on short transmissions, 3 minutes or less as on
  many repeaters you normally hear the users ID only every 10 minutes.
  Break-in CW is usually just BK with the ID every 10.
73, Roger > One thing I do think that as amateurs we should do is to try to ensure that home brew equipment
  meets the relevant ITU standards on spurious emissions, although I grant
  that for QRO at 10GHz on
  CW, that's impossible. For HF, harmonics and spurs (unwanted sidebands
  from a switching supply
  perhaps?) should be 43dB + 10 log P dB down from PEP, without needing to
  be more than 50dB down.
  Note that the FCC translation of SM329 into Part 97 managed to omit the
  10 log P, so it's 43dB
  in the US. While amateurs are seen to be complying (i.e. not causing
  trouble), we are more likely
  to be left alone. Having said, that amateurs hadn't caused problems but
  ITU TG1/3 revised SM329
  in 1993 - 5 and brought amateurs in for the first time, anyway.
  >
  > My rig uses a VFO, is very good on phase noise, rx and tx IMD and is 30 
years old.....so I don't
  feel I'll change that!
  >
> 73
  >
  > Peter G3RZP
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