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Subject: [Amps] The cost of amplifiers, radios
From: "Jim Thomson" <jim.thom@telus.net>
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2016 21:04:05 -0800
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Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2016 16:27:18 -0500
From: "Mark Bitterlich" <markbitterlich@embarqmail.com>
To: "Bill Turner" <dezrat@outlook.com>, "Amps group"
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Subject: Re: [Amps] The cost of amplifiers, radios


Bill,

The Henry 8K does 160, and all WARC bands.  Of course it is also pretty 
expensive and out of production.  Also very heavy, but you can remote the 
power supply and RF Deck from the operating position by quite a distance. 
And yes, it has a loud fan.  Just my own personal opinion, but I believe the 
tube it uses (3CX3000A7) is actually one of the best on the market ..... 
cheap for the power it develops.

You are correct, the majority of the other models do not do 160, and use 
individually switched Pi Input "modules" that make operation on some of the 
WARC bands less than a "plug and play" operation, not to mention the tapped 
coil(s).  Still, they are pretty amazing amplifiers.  Just saw a Henry 5K 
Classic for sale for $3000.  Two 3CX1200A7's (sadly, now a pricey tube), but 
it will also put out serious power.

I really like the idea of cheaper amps with one pre-set for each band, 
(common parts, etc.) but logistically hooking them all up to one exciter 
would tend to be a PITA.

Obviously I own an 8K and enjoy it very much.  I have tuned it into a 4.5:1 
VSWR on 160, with 1500 watts out on CW to work Navassa (an 80 meter OCF, was 
all I had at the time!).  Worked perfectly.  No computer controllers 
protecting it, so if you get REALLY stupid, you let the smoke out.

Mark
WA3JPY

## The  3CX-3000A7 tube used in the 8K  and other amps is a superb tube.
IMD3 is  -59db pep...at 5 kw pep out..and more and lower power levels. 
Instant on, rebuildable tube.  50 ohm input.  225 w CCS
grid dissipation, and even more when in GG mode, with grid bonded to chassis.
You can use the grid as a dummy load for a FT-1000 D.   With 5 kw out, the grid
only dissipates aprx 80-90 watts.  Nobody ever blew the grid out of a 3x3 tube,
even 11m ops. 

The henry 3K ultra is also a 160-10m amplifier. 

##  typ 3CX-3000A7 in GG  with 4800-5000 under load runs as follows. 
50w in = 1.5 kw out.
100w  = 2.5 kw
150w = 3.5 kw
200w = 5.2 kw 

##  the 3CX-3000A7 is still used in a lot of FM broadcast TX, like energy 
onxix..and others.   

##  using several small amps, each tuned on a different band is simple in most 
cases.  I string
all 4 of my L4B amps in series, nose to tail.  Then either tune each amp on a 
different band, or
cw + ssb on  the same band, or cw and 2 x ssb segments, like for 80m, or any 
possible combo
you can imagine.   Low bands at night, high bands during the daytime etc.  

##  That works, provided the amp in question will handle full power on BYPASS  
mode. 

##  I use a simple rotary switch, to switch the key lines to each amp. IE:  
keyline from xcvr to
input of rotary switch.   Then 1 output to each amps key line, so 4 in all on 
the output of the
small rotary switch.  Then only one amp can ever be keyed at any time.   Dead 
simple,
and effective.   If one amp ever blew up, I still have 3 spares.   Modifying a 
drake L4B to
include  160m  ( in addition to 80-10m)  is not an issue either, fairly  Simple 
really.   The oem 
156 uh plate choke is ample for 160m, as is the oem Bifilar fil choke. 

Jim   VE7RF 


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