----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Rhodes" <k0xu@iowadsl.net>
To: "Igor Sokolov" <ua9cdc@r66.ru>; <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2005 1:45 AM
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LOTW DXCC
> Here is another place that we disagree. Operators that claim to be
> somewhere or someone that they are not are cheating all of us. Why
wait
> till later (after they have a trunkfull of green stamps) to find
this out.
If that is the only argument then it is not valid because:
1) There are authentic stations exist that get green stamps and do
not send cards in return.
2) If Nr1 is not applicable to cheating station and cards for
cheater's operation are going to be send out, cheater will not gain
anything money wise.
> By having to validate who I am, I am not made to feel like I am
suspected
> of cheating. I am made to feel like my identity is worthy of
recognition.
Accepting the fact that your word is not enough of validation of your
identity you put your word lower then some piece of paper which
lowers your self esteem. This is harder thing to restore if damaged.
Is it worth while when we talk about hobby which does not put
someone's life in jeopardy.
73, Igor UA9CDC
> When I apply for credit at a bank I expect them to validate my
ability to
> pay it off. And that is only money. When I am accepting or giving
> validation for a contact made with another amateur that involves my
> character. This is a harder thing to restore if damaged.
>
> At 07:50 AM 4/20/2005, Igor Sokolov wrote:
>
> >Sorry you cannot share my sentiments. Nobody should be suspected
in
> >cheating unless proved otherwise. I think that is where we should
be
> >heading. Cheaters only cheat themselves and sooner or later their
> >cheating is obvious to public.
> >
> >73, Igor UA9CDC
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: "Jim Rhodes" <k0xu@iowadsl.net>
> >To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> >Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2005 4:53 AM
> >Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] LOTW DXCC
> >
> >
> > > And the DX desk or contest sponsor should also take a person's
word
> >when
> > > they say they were operating in North Korea, or Bhutan, or any
> >other hard
> > > to get to spot. Surely no one would ever cheat at something
like
> >that!
> > >
> > > Sorry, I cannot share your sentiments. My thanks to the folks
at
> >the league
> > > that are taking time and effort to make the system mean
something.
> > >
> > > At 07:50 AM 4/19/2005, Igor Sokolov wrote:
> > > >It takes much more then 2 minutes to upload to LOTW. At least
for
> > > >those who lives outside of the USA. It involves sending
> >photocopies
> > > >of the licence and passport by snail mail and then downloading
> > > >software, getting key, preserving key for one year, not
forgetting
> >to
> > > >renew it etc. I think we Hams deserve to be trusted. Until
the
> > > >attitude change I will keep uploading 8Q7DV expedition logs
to
> > > >dx.qsl.net where everyone can check them. It is just hobby.
> > > >
> > > >73, Igor UA9CDC
> > > >
> > > >----- Original Message -----
> > > >From: "N7MAL" <N7MAL@CITLINK.NET>
> > > >To: <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> > > >Cc: "n7cqq" <n7cqq@msn.com>; "Mills, Wayne N7NG"
<N7NG@arrl.org>
> > > >Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2005 9:34 AM
> > > >Subject: [CQ-Contest] LOTW DXCC
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Finally: Thanks to N7CQQ for uploading the XR0X logs to
LOTW I
> >now
> > > >have """""un-linked"""", virgin, mixed DXCC via LOTW.
> > > > > Here's some stats to ponder: I have uploaded 11K+ QSO's, 4
band
> > > >DXCC, 85% of Q's CW and 75% of Q's contest logs. It has taken
> >since
> > > >the beginning of LOTW to today to get mixed DXCC. Sure would
have
> > > >been a lot easier and a much shorter wait if certain, still
> >unnamed,
> > > >contest xpeditions would take the extra 2 minutes to upload to
> >LOTW
> > > >the same cab file they send to the contest sponsor and the
same
> >info
> > > >they use to brag to 3830.
> > > > > Once again kudos' to John N7CQQ.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > MAL N7MAL
> > > > > BULLHEAD CITY, AZ
> > > > > http://www.ctaz.com/~suzyq/N7mal.htm
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> > > Jim Rhodes K0XU
> > > jim@rhodesend.net
> > >
> > > Experience is the thing you have left when everything else is
gone.
> > >
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> Jim Rhodes K0XU
> jim@rhodesend.net
>
> Experience is the thing you have left when everything else is gone.
>
>
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