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Re: [CQ-Contest] Xtreme category, catch 22

To: Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>, CQ Contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Xtreme category, catch 22
From: Prasad <vu2ptt@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 11:27:24 +0530
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I just got presented with a Sony PS3 game console by my wife (maybe she
wants to wean me away from the radio). Now just waiting for Sony to tune
into this discussion to come up with a InternetHam Blu-Ray disc and have fun
on the PS3. The system already has a Wi-Fi internet link and wireless
controllers, all I need is a slew of contesters in there. I hope Nintendo
and Microsoft are listening too. :)
On a more serious note, encouragement of these types of activity is going to
make awards like DXCC, WAS, WAZ even more difficult to administer or easier
to achieve (depending on the way one looks at it).

73 de Prasad VU2PTT.

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 3:57 AM, Julius Fazekas <phriendly1@yahoo.com>wrote:

>
> Hmmm... SIM or WII Amateur Radio, there's probably a place for that too.
> Just as with simulated flight, poker, baseball.
>
> Is it the same thing as the "real" thing, no. Can it be modeled to be a
> close approximation? Probably... Build it and they will come.
>
> I can see a point variation based on where you make the "QSO", via the
> internet, satellite, actually "on the air". Would it be popular? Who knows?!
>
> The "Extreme Category", 15 days to submit your log, no more paper logs...
> Who would have thunk it five years ago? ;o)
>
> Change is the only constant.
>
> Enjoy,
>
> Julius
>
> Julius Fazekas
> N2WN
>
> Tennessee Contest Group
> http://www.k4ro.net/tcg/index.html
>
> Tennessee QSO Party: Sunday, 6 Sept 2009
> http://www.tnqp.org/
>
> Elecraft K2/100 #4455
> Elecraft K3/100 #366
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/16/09, Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Paul O'Kane <pokane@ei5di.com>
> > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] Xtreme category, catch 22
> > To: CQ-Contest@contesting.com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 16, 2009, 10:52 AM
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Julius Fazekas" <phriendly1@yahoo.com>
> >
> > ...
> >
> > > The Extreme category is a good thing... It may open
> > new
> > > techniques up to everyone. It is a logical progression
> > in
> > > our hobby.
> >
> > New techniques and technologies are always welcome.
> > When they serve to replace RF, however, the notion of
> > a "QSO" has to change.  If all possible technology
> > changes are accepted, contesting will change into
> > something indistinguishable from internet gaming
> > (thanks 6W1RY).
> >
> > The issue is simply stated, but harder to resolve -
> > "When is a contest QSO not a QSO?"  Without
> > agreement,
> > the arguments about new categories and technologies
> > will be never-ending.
> >
> > IMHO, a good starting point is for QSOs to be valid
> > only when they are acceptable for DXCC awards.
> >
> > That raises two questions.
> >
> >   1. Will the DXCC Committee offer a definition of
> >      a QSO?  Perhaps there will be
> > more than one
> >      class of QSO, with separate
> > definitions.
> >
> >   2. Will the contesting community abide by the DXCC
> >      definition(s) when framing rules
> > and categories?
> >
> > If the answer to either question is "No", we will
> > remain in the Wild West era of contesting.
> >
> > If the answer to both questions is "Yes", ARRL,
> > CQ and other interested parties need to draft
> > the definitions.
> >
> > 73,
> > Paul EI5DI
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