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Re: [CQ-Contest] KR2Q - RX1CQ

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] KR2Q - RX1CQ
From: "Ron Notarius W3WN" <wn3vaw@verizon.net>
Date: Sun, 07 Aug 2011 00:44:57 -0400
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Well, I'm sorry that you don't want to hear any dissension.

But I fail to see why the number of posts I have made have any bearing on
the continued erosion of trust in fellow contesters.

And... since you brought up competition on a "global" scale... I'm not
talking about oversight by the contest committee(s) or similar oversight
organizations.  That's disingenuous.

For example:  It's one thing for the WRTC organizers to set the rules for
the operators and to determine the level of oversight.  But it's quite
another for anyone who feels like it to come along and demand -- and expect
-- the organizers to turn over every scrap of information that's been
gathered about every operating team, just so "everyone" can figure out on
their own if the organizers & operators were on the up & up as they claimed
to be.

Does the operator of Joe's Bike Shack in downtown Podunk have the right to
demand that the Tour de France organizers turn over Lance Armstrong's test
results... and everyone else's for that matter... after all, he's involved
in serious competitive biking too!

Is the equivalent of that really what you want?  Because that's where Open
Logs and now Open UBN reports and Lord knows what next leads us.

-----Original Message-----
From: cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com
[mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf Of David Gilbert
Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 9:27 PM
To: cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] KR2Q - RX1CQ


I also find W2WN's rancor on this topic to be a bit unrealistic.  I'm 
hard pressed to think of any other competition with such open global 
participation as radiosport that doesn't involve at least as much 
official and public scrutiny of both the performance and the result.  
Golf, basketball, football, running, bicycling, soccer, etc ... nobody 
would even consider administering a serious competition in such events 
without significant oversight --- before, during, and after.  Heck, look 
at the absolutely incredible measures that are taken at WRTC to assure 
that no participant is able to bend anything to their advantage, and 
those folks are the cream of the crop in our hobby!

Besides, with a minimal amount of Google searching I can find well over 
3,000 online forum posts that W2WN has made over the years on a wide 
variety of subjects, and I suspect many of the rest of us aren't far 
behind.  Anything anyone would want to know about us is probably already 
sitting out there by our own hand.

73,
Dave   AB7E



On 8/6/2011 2:28 PM, Ward Silver wrote:
> "Will we as contesters be required to put a webcam in our
> shacks and expose ourselves to the world for 24 or 48 hours, to the whim
of
> any voyeur who seems to find some reason to watch me operate a radio in
> shorts and a T-shirt?"
>
> I thought exposing ourselves to the world for 24 or 48 hours to any radio
voyeur who seems to find some reason to call us on the radio was the entire
point of contesting in general.  If privacy is one's goal, radiosport would
not be my first suggestion as a hobby.
>
> 73, Ward N0AX
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