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Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Sundays

To: w0mu@w0mu.com, cq-contest@contesting.com
Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] SS Sundays
From: Jimk8mr@aol.com
Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2013 20:07:37 -0500 (EST)
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Nothing is stopping anyone, but nearly everyone likes to at least see their 
 name (call) in the lights after it's all over. We don't like being treated 
like  an outcast for showing up under a new ID, having a good time, and 
making things  more interesting for everyone else. We like our efforts to count 
for our contest  clubs.
 
Big clubs have used operators at different locations, with rigs  not used 
by another operator during the contest. Dropping the current rules (3.3  and 
3.5) would just make things simpler while letting one remain eligible to  
submit a score, and not require making arrangements with another station owner 
 or spending time driving between stations.
 
When the median CW SS operator has been around for 40 years (my guess,  
which may be low), it is long past basing the future of SS, especially the CW  
SS, solely on the ability to recruit new participants.
 
 
 
73  -  Jim   K8MR
 
 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 2/10/2013 7:40:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
w0mu@w0mu.com writes:

Nothing  is stopping anyone from doing this now.  Who cares if you are 
not  sending in a log.  The big clubs have been doing this legally for a  
long time.  They just bring over an new transceiver and away they  go.

This idea does not really bring anyone new into the mix.  It  is the same 
people with new calls.

How many calls can one use, 2,  3, 4, 5?  Does this number continue to 
grow as there are less and  less participants?

Mike W0MU

On 2/10/2013 2:12 PM,  Jimk8mr@aol.com wrote:
> Let's get back to the simple suggestion most  recently made by K2AV (with 
my
>   enthusiastic  second):
>   
> Simply give people the reasonable  opportunity to use a second (or more)
> call later in the contest, with  minimal limits to prevent manufactured 
contact
>   abuse (A  problem more in theory than in practice. See the CQ contests
> where  multiple calls are permitted). Forbidding the use of a previous 
call
>  after  use of a new one begins would be sufficient.
>    
> No need to establish new categories to do so.  Some side bet  type of
> action without involving the ARRL Contest Desk is fine, but  not 
necessary. I've
> had a competition (pretty much with myself) over  the years to see if the 
sum
> of  my four scores (from separate  physical locations) will beat the score
> of the  overall high  scorer. Some years I win, some years I don't.
>   
> SS,  especially the CW SS, is presented as an endurance contest where one
>  struggles to scrape out every last possible qso on Sunday. I consider 
this  a
> bug, not a feature, of SS. But the contest is still sufficiently  popular
> that  being a new station in the later hours makes it  into a rate 
contest.
> That  combined with the challenge of working  a clean sweep (or close to 
it) in
> a  relatively few hours makes  Sunday SS with a fresh call a lot of fun.
>   
> All  this will take is for the ARRL to drop General Rules 3.3 and  3.5.
>   
>   
> 73  -   Jim   K8MR
>   
>    
>   
>   
> In a message dated  2/10/2013 1:50:52 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,
> n4zr@contesting.com  writes:
>
> No, but  there *might* be a correlation if  limited-time competition
> categories were  offered, perhaps  focused on Sunday operating periods.  A
> "6-hour  Sunday"  class might add some activity in the dead zone,
> particularly as   the age of SS participants continues to rise.
>
> 73, Pete   N4ZR
>   
>   
>
>
>  On  2/9/2013 8:59 PM, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote:
>> We seemed to  have gotten  well off the original topic which was a
>>  substantial drop in  participation in the contest and what things  we
>> could do to get more  people to  participate.
>>
>> Sunday afternoon, lack of rate was   mentioned as reason that
>> discouraged some.
>>
>>  I am not  sure if there is any correlation between changing the  length
>> of the  contest  and increasing  participation.
>>
>> Mike   W0MU
>>
>
>
>> 
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