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Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights
From: "Larry" <lknain@nc.rr.com>
Reply-to: Larry <w6nws@arrl.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 11:25:20 -0500
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Personally, I rarely QSY but do on occasion.

1. If I have worked "most" of the stations on the band and the band you want to me to QSY to is where I intend to go next I might well go look for your other station (assuming that I have not already worked you on the other band).

2. If you are relatively rare you have a better chance of me to QSY.

3. Someone asked me to QSY during ARRL DX CW to 40 but I have no antenna up at the moment for 40 so QSY is not an option. I would normally acknowledge the QSY request but decline.

4. For contests with things like the 10 minute rule I also have to consider how long have I been on "this" band.

5. There is also the issue of whether I think I can hear you (or you hear me) on the other band. We might have a better chance of working at a different time. This may be propagation and/or equipment related.

6. I might have a list of stations that I am trying to work on the current band where the band opening to those stations is relatively short compared to the opening to your station. If I go to the other band I may effectively lose 10 minutes (+- if band changes are limited by rule) which might be the difference in whether I work the stations on the current band. The stations in my list would normally be multipliers for me.

7. If you are not the only station from a country I might have already worked one of the other stations and therefore in a selfish way there may be no benefit for me in QSYing other than a some points. If I was already planning to go to the other band I would probably look for your other station.

73, Larry  W6NWS

-----Original Message----- From: Georgek5kg@aol.com
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 10:27 AM
To: CQ-Contest@CONTESTING.COM ; fcg@kkn.net
Subject: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights

Ok, let's open up a new thread...

Something that I have noticed for years is that when trying to get another
CW station to QSY to another band, typically because you need him as a
mult, I will get no response to the "pse QSY to ...such-and-such band" request.


In last week's ARRL DX CW contest from PJ4X, we tried repeatedly to get
stations to move to other bands, but were more-often-than-not met with the
"deer  in headlights" blank stare!  In comparing notes over 807's after the
contest, we concluded that if the other station was loud and fast, there was a
good chance that we would get a successful QSY.  Otherwise, generally, no
response at all.

Can it be that so many stations are 1.) not really copying (or can't  copy)
the code, 2.) not interested or able to go to another band, or  3.) quickly
moving off the frequency before we can even send the QSY  request?  With
respect to the last point, we tried different canned QSY requests in our "TU"
message.  We tried "R PSE QSY TO ...", "TU PSE QSY TO  ...", and bluntly
"PSE QSY TO ..."  My guess is that we got  successful responses to less than
10% of the requests to QSY.

Your thoughts please.

73, George, K5KG

George  Wagner, K5KG
Sarasota, FL
941-400-1960  cell
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