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Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights
From: "Chet moore" <chetmoore@cox.net>
Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2013 13:11:53 -0500
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Hey George,

Operating from big multi stations like W3PP, NR4M etc our results were
pretty much the same as yours.
I do know some apartment dwellers  who only have one band but may not want
to send you a long explanation for why they can't move to the other bands
especially on CW. Some of the guys giving
Out q's are using a code reader and only push a button to send your call and
another button to give you their report. In some cases They may not even
have a key to send anything that's not in the contest exchange.  I have seen
newer ops who May take up to 4 -5  minutes to do a band change that includes
swapping out antennas and  re tuning their amp. Some multi ops without at
second op/spotter on a particular band may give up after 3 minutes before
the guy the moved up even gets to the suggested freq. 4 - 5 minutes can seem
like an eternity to a guy at a multi op  waiting for the moved station to
show up.  This can also Be a problem for those who do not have an antenna
switch and actually have to unplug a coax And then find and plug in the one
for the next band. Some ops can only operate on one or two bands Because
they cause TVI on other bands. Asking for band changes seemed to work much
better For me anyway toward the end of the contest that at the beginning.
Someone who is operating Single band only may not want to make any q's on
another band.  I am sure you will get some great replies.


Chet N4FX

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Subject: [CQ-Contest] PSE QSY - Deer in headlights

Ok, let's open up a new thread...
Something that I have noticed for years is that when trying to get another
CW station to QSY to another band, typically because you need him as a mult,
I  will get no response to the "pse QSY to ...such-and-such band" request. 
In last week's ARRL DX CW contest from PJ4X, we tried repeatedly to get
stations to move to other bands, but were more-often-than-not met with the
"deer  in headlights" blank stare!  In comparing notes over 807's after the
contest, we concluded that if the other station was loud and fast, there was
a  good chance that we would get a successful QSY.  Otherwise, generally, no
response at all.  
Can it be that so many stations are 1.) not really copying (or can't  copy)
the code, 2.) not interested or able to go to another band, or  3.) quickly
moving off the frequency before we can even send the QSY  request?  With
respect to the last point, we tried different canned QSY  requests in our
message.  We tried "R PSE QSY TO ...", "TU PSE QSY TO  ...", and bluntly
"PSE QSY TO ..."  My guess is that we got  successful responses to less than
10% of the requests to QSY.
Your thoughts please.
73, George, K5KG
George  Wagner, K5KG
Sarasota, FL
941-400-1960  cell
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