Trying to get thru the pile again, twice or even three times should
generate more score than leaving the frequency and giving the potential
innocent victim a -NIL with the penalty.
That is, at least I could not just coldly leave him there with a clear and
honest mind.
I would be troubled doing that kind of harm to a fellow contester.
Take that 45 seconds and if no response, then feel better.
Be honest trying.
Giving anyone 'a lesson' of that sort is simply unacceptable.
73,
Jukka OH6LI
2013/9/4 <ve4xt@mymts.net>
> Jukka
>
> Yes, however, that's often easier said than done.
>
> Many, many times I've worked a running station and have had to correct
> him/her on a piece of the exchange, he's so busy in the pileup he either
> doesn't hear you or doesn't consider a fix important enough.
>
> Nobody should be expected to continue sacrificing other QSOs to keep
> banging head against wall for too much time, and that amount of time is
> roughly the same as what the 'mult worth' calculator of some loggers would
> show, IMHO.
>
> If you can fix the Q, do it. If you can't, all you can do is move on. If
> his error is big enough, you'll lose the Q anyway, so no real loss.
>
> Kelly
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 4, 2013, at 7:29, "Jukka Klemola" <jpklemola@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > How come so many suggest stopping there, removing the QSO and then tuning
> > for the next frequency?
> >
> >
> > I was expecting someone or anyone suggesting calling again the station
> that
> > is on thr frequency and is not in your log.
> > Why go and try to find a next frequency as you already are on a frequency
> > of a station that you do not have in your log?
> >
> > Finalise the QSO ..
> >
> > That will yield you more QSOs at the end of the contest.
> > It also produces a bigger score.
> >
> >
> > 73,
> > Jukka OH6LI
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/4 <ve4xt@mymts.net>
> >
> >> Surely, if there's been a good-faith effort to get the Q, leave it in
> the
> >> log.
> >>
> >> But if you know the Q is not complete, and your best efforts to complete
> >> it fail, by getting a fill or correcting his error, then there is no Q
> to
> >> remove. It didn't exist.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 3, 2013, at 20:48, john@kk9a.com wrote:
> >>
> >>> I think it is a very poor practice to receive a report, send your
> report
> >> and
> >>> then removed the station from your log unless you have a good reason to
> >>> believe that the station did not log you. There should be something in
> >> the
> >>> rules prohibiting this practice. Most stations will ask you to repeat
> >> the
> >>> report and work hard to copy it correctly before moving on to the next
> >>> station. If the station just sends his callsign, QRZ, dit dit, etc,
> >> that
> >>> may be his way of acknowledging the contact and moving on to the next
> >>> caller. Listen to the operator's operating style before calling.
> >>>
> >>> John KK9A / P40A
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: <KB3LIX@comcast.net>
> >>> To: <john@kk9a.com>; "Contest, CQ" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 01, 2013 19:59
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NILs hurt
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I consider an acknowledgement to be a:
> >>>
> >>> TU
> >>> OK
> >>> GL
> >>> Got it
> >>>
> >>> Something along those lines. CERTAINLY nothing fancy,
> >>> just a reply that they got the exchange. Frankly, I do NOT want
> >>> them to repeat MY exchange, that wastes too much time, mine and theirs.
> >>>
> >>> Many times I will try to ask IF they got the exchange, and most if not
> >>> all times they just keep slugging away.
> >>>
> >>> Understand, I am not a biggie.
> >>> 100w, a 4BTV & a homemade 130' doublet, so I do not
> >>> have a "big mouth" and when I ask for a confirmation, I am often
> >>> drowned out by the cacophony of other callers.
> >>>
> >>> I have lost quite a few multipliers due to my impatience or
> >>> stubbornness or whatever it is and that HURTS, but I cannot in good
> >>> consience
> >>> count Q's that I do not consider complete.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> bill 73 KB3LIX
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: john@kk9a.com
> >>> To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> >>> Cc: KB3LIX@comcast.net
> >>> Sent: Sunday, September 1, 2013 12:04:36 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] NILs hurt
> >>>
> >>> What do you consider an acknowledgement? Many stations, including
> >> myself,
> >>> running at a high rate, just give a quick TU, thanks or just say their
> >>> callsign looking for the next contact. I never repeat your exchange.
> If I
> >>> did not copy it I would ask for a repeat.
> >>>
> >>> John P40A
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> To:"Contest, CQ" <CQ-Contest@contesting.com>
> >>> Subject:[CQ-Contest] Fwd: NILs hurt
> >>> From:KB3LIX@comcast.net
> >>> Date:Sun, 1 Sep 2013 03:53:16 +0000 (UTC)
> >>> List-post:<cq-contest@contesting.com">mailto:cq-contest@contesting.com
> >
> >>>
> >>> If I do not get a solid acknowledgement from another station in a
> >> contest,
> >>> I DELETE the ENTRY in my logging program.
> >>> Of course, I am NOT a big time contester, just a small fish,
> >>> but I figure if they are in too much of a rush to skip the
> confirmation,
> >>> they DESERVE the NIL...Not me.
> >>>
> >>> I am sure most will say I am FOS, but too bad.
> >>> That is my way of doing things.
> >>>
> >>> bill KB3LIX
> >>>
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