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Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Survey results - part 1

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Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Survey results - part 1
From: Michael Schulz <mschulz@creative-chaos.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2015 13:27:48 -0800
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I guess the "Please copy ..." comes from maybe their first exposure to
"contesting" during Field Day
which is not a contest (yes it is, and we're going to win it anyway). And
yes, leading by example is the 
way to go, but at the same time it needs to be pointed out not necessarily
as wrong, but as not best 
practice for numerous reasons. 

73 Mike K5TRI

> -----Original Message-----
> From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On Behalf
> Of Tom Haavisto
> Sent: Thursday, December 17, 2015 10:44 AM
> To: Marty s <0246811@gmail.com>
> Cc: cq-contest <cq-contest@contesting.com>
> Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Survey results - part 1
> 
> Hi Marty
> 
> Glad to see there are some young contesters here.
> 
> Please don't focus on things others are doing wrong like "Please copy..."
> We all learn from our mistakes, and we get better through practice and
> participation.
> 
> Having fun is what it is all about, and that would be the message I
suggest
> you pass along to your friends.  Contesting IS fun, and things better
better
> the more they participate.  As they emulate what they see and hear others
> doing, the "please copy" will gradually disappear without them even being
> aware of it.
> 
> 
> Tom - VE3CX
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 1:04 PM, Marty s <0246811@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > I agree, I spend a lot of my time getting more young hams involved. I
> > am 13, and am fairly active in the contests. There are plenty of young
> > kids getting into the hobby, but not anywhere as many into contesting.
> > I know close to 45 kids in the hobby, and maybe 5 are into contesting
> > somewhat, and only 3 of us, care enough to keep the butt in the chair,
> > or have a hint of skill (Don't make me tell you about the kids who
> > start all exchanges with "Please copy":) I think if we target the kids
> > in the hobby who are really seriously interested, and give the
> > resources, there will be more contesting young people. I know I wound
> > not know much about contesting without all of my Elmers in the YCCC,
> > or being invited to a multi-multi during CQ WW this year. Just my 2
cents.
> >
> >
> > Marty
> >
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> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 17, 2015 at 11:37 AM, Michael Schulz <
> > mschulz@creative-chaos.com
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > Interesting results which show that if you want to be successful, be
> > closer
> > > to or in Europe :).
> > >
> > > Regarding the age distribution, I see this concern all the time that
> > there
> > > are declining numbers based on age
> > > and that amateur radio will be dead when the last old hams died.
> > > This
> > seems
> > > to be always then be tied to
> > > youth not coming into the hobby at a higher rate. How about a
> > > different lens in which one would look at influx of new hams
> > > regardless of age? Do we need 90% (making an extreme example) of
> new
> > > hams to be <18 years old?
> > > Especially in contesting, the 40+ age group (I find myself in that
> > bracket)
> > > would seem more likely to engage in
> > > contesting as new-comers given that by that time in life, things
> > > have settled more overall, and disposable income is (ideally)
> > > greater as compared to the 16 - 20 or 20 - 30 age brackets.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > 73 Mike K5TRI
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: CQ-Contest [mailto:cq-contest-bounces@contesting.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of David Gilbert
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, December 16, 2015 9:49 PM
> > > > To: cq-contest@contesting.com
> > > > Subject: Re: [CQ-Contest] CQ WW Survey results - part 1
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I don't find the age distribution to be surprising at all.  Age
> > > > data
> > from
> > > the All
> > > > Asian contest exchange looks similar.  Look at the pictures from
> > > > Dayton
> > > or
> > > > any club meeting and compare them to pictures taken 30 years ago ...
> > > pretty
> > > > much all you see are people that are 30 years older.
> > > >
> > > > Somebody I was speaking to once claimed that the average age of
> > > > ham
> > radio
> > > > ops in the U.S. increased at least one year every 1.5 years. Seems
> > about
> > > right
> > > > to me.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > Dave  AB7E
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/16/2015 5:41 PM, Randy Thompson K5ZD wrote:
> > > > > There is a new blog post with the first results from the CQ WW
> > Contest
> > > > > survey that was open during September 2015.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > http://cqww.com/blog/2015-cq-ww-survey-results-part-1/
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > This first post cover demographic information about the responses.
> > > > > The most striking finding is how old we are!
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Comments and discussion are welcome.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Randy, K5ZD
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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